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by **Sideros** » Fri May 06, 2011 9:18 pm

Can people with WOF knowledge only reply here as I need a definative answer to take to VTNZ!

I have an ST205 celica that has failed it's warrant due to having a front mount intercooler installed.

The only part of the body I have altered is drilling a hole for the piping to go through. This hole is in a plate just to the left (if looking at vehicle from front) of the radiator. It is not a structural part of the car.

Do I have to have a cert or are they just being di*ks about it?

What EXACTLY can I say or ask them to do to "prove" they should have failed it if they should have passed it?

Thanks!

by **Sideros** » Fri May 06, 2011 9:19 pm

Whoops can a Mod move this to General or Tech please!

by **Leon** » Fri May 06, 2011 9:20 pm

take it to an LVV certifier, and he will write a note to say you don't need a cert if that is the case.

by **strx7** » Fri May 06, 2011 10:29 pm

does the vehicle have airbags?

by **Sideros** » Fri May 06, 2011 10:34 pm

by **DexGT** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:32 pm

Can I just say " WHAT the hell were you thinking going to VTNZ??".
I vowed never to return after they said I needed a cert for my rear swaybar , so I pointed at the cert plate that said "adjustable suspension" and they said it didn't cover my adjustable swaybar ??
Muppets

Do what Leon said cause they won't believe anything else :roll:

by **Brawler** » Fri May 06, 2011 11:39 pm

It must be the free coffees that attract people to vtnz lol, Id prefer just to get my warrent

by **AE82 FXGT** » Sat May 07, 2011 12:34 am

I know there is some gay rule saying you aren't allowed to modify you existing bumper (chop a big hole in it) to fit a front mount, but you are allowed to have an aftermarket front bumper and fit a front mount (wtf).

So, front mount = you're encouraged to have body kit too?

But from what you say, you haven't touched your bumper...

by **YeMs** » Sat May 07, 2011 6:30 am

comes down to the clown doin the wof. if hes feeling shitty hell fail it. thats what vtnz are all about. monkeys paid bananas to run on a spinning wheel. why anyone takes their car there ill never understand.

by **GDII** » Sat May 07, 2011 8:51 am

I've taken my car a few times because it's convenient. No need to leave your car at a garage all day.

by **Sideros** » Sat May 07, 2011 9:04 am

GDII wrote:I've taken my car a few times because it's convenient. No need to leave your car at a garage all day.

This. It's quick. They have never failed me on anything before. They didn't even look twice at my battery in the boot that's not in a battery box (they don't have to be, but this is what I was expecting them to fail it on)

by **MR2BOY23** » Sat May 07, 2011 9:24 am

I have to take my car there to get the green sticker off, not looking forward to it at all

by **strx7** » Sat May 07, 2011 9:36 am

they probably thought you have hacked up the bumper reinforcer to fit the i/c which you cant do.

by **iOnic** » Sat May 07, 2011 9:48 am

Which VTNZ was it? The one on Rangitikei St next to smith city has a few guys that have a clue as they see modified cars all the time. If you're unhappy ask to see Brent and ask him why your car needs a cert for a FMIC - he's a good guy and will let you know their reasoning/put it through.

by **BZG Wagon** » Sat May 07, 2011 10:08 am

Rules are here: http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/virm-in-service-certification/virm-in-service-certification.html

Part 3 (Vehicle structure) relates to you. Ask them specifically what section or rule your car does not comply with.

Part 3 Page 5:

Fitting of or modification to: An aftermarket intercooler
LVV certification is not required provided that:
•the front structure of the vehicle has not been modified, and
•the intercooler is a suitable fitment for the vehicle, and
•the front bumper assembly is unaltered.

-> Print that off and educate them. :twisted:

by **wde_bdy** » Sat May 07, 2011 10:37 am

That says front structure is not modified, yet he has already he said he drilled holes for the pipes which IS a modification. So unless those are bolt in panels then the WoF guy is most likely right.
Got pics of where you have cut?

Callum

by **DexGT** » Sat May 07, 2011 11:06 am

If I understand correctly you have drilled a hole though the block off panel between the radiator and the chassis rail , so no way structural . Maybe you need to remake this panel out of something like plastic sheet so it is clearly not factory :lol:

by **Jdawg** » Sat May 07, 2011 12:09 pm

If the panel is welded to the chassis it is considered structural as has been pointed out.

by **iOnic** » Sat May 07, 2011 12:58 pm

Yup unless the hole is there from factory, you've modified the structure of the chassis and technically need to have a cert for it. Really depends on how picky the inspector is at the time. There are a lot of things that need to be certified that manage to get through (eg fitment of wastegates, chipped/aftermarket ECU's, non stock turbos etc). Some inspectors either don't know about the rule or aren't picky enough to care.

by **tsoob** » Sat May 07, 2011 1:20 pm

take it to another garage and get them to pass the wof.

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