Muslim cartoons

[FXGTV]

Thing is the western paper isnt dumb enough to publish the pictures the muslims are making. Americans would get angry, they are like that.

afik the pictures were originally published in september last year.

Americans also fight in the name of god and believe they are right and god supports them, they dont cut peoples heads off but manage to kill hunderds of people and injure many more with a single bomb.

The muslims are fighting a different war, they dont have the weapons that the us have.

Christins has been in wars for much longer than the muslims, some very brutal wars at that too.
What about the whole IRA stuff? Christians Vs Protestants, and thats still happening now, children are being targeted! Its outrageous.

And there was no cold war 30 years ago, 60 years ago the relationship between russia and america was unstable, just the same as the relation ship between the muslim and western world is now unstable.

Think about what you just said sergi...

Basicly every war is based upon two waring religious factions, or two different camps of one religion. Radical Muslims hate for the West can be traced back to the Crusades, where Christians completely boned Muslims. They probably should get over it though...it was centuries ago. Do we still hold it agaisnt Germany and Japan for drawing the world into WWII? No, of course not. I guess the Christian and Muslim worlds will never be able to co-exist because both are powered by such radical moral extreems.

[Punter]

Basicly every war is based upon two waring religious factions, or two different camps of one religion.

Yep, pretty much.

[sergei]

60 years ago was the world war2 in progress/ end of it (1940ies, THERE WERE NO COLD WAR) cold war started in sixties (when Crushev made silly statements, and was behaving like an idiot, mobilizing fleet near cuba, and suppluing Fidel Castro with nukes, or what seemed to be nukes)!
And if you google for porpaganda during cold war you will find lots of pics wich would be very offencive (from both sides).
Americans DO NOT fight for GOD! they fight for OIL!
There is different relation ship between muslim world and USA then during cold war with russia (for one thing USSR was 1 single state wich could NUKE whole north american subcontinent within very short time, and difference was political NOT religious), also USSR was very developed country with strong economy at that time (in sixties), and could mobilise its army in very short time to counter attack/attack if needed, I would agree there were stupid leaders, but most of the time there were actually puppets of in hands of NKVD (and later KGB).
Please check you info before posting.

[FXGTV]

60 years ago was the world war2 in progress (1940ies, THERE WERE NO COLD WAR) cold war started in sixties (when Crushev made silly statements, and was behaving like an idiot, mobilizing fleet near cuba, and suppluing Fidel Castro with nukes, or what seemed to be nukes)!
And if you google for porpaganda during cold war you will find lots of pics wich would be very offencive (from both sides).
Americans DO NOT fight for GOD! they fight for OIL!
There is different relation ship between muslim world and USA then during cold war with russia (for one thing USSR was 1 single state wich could NUKE whole north american subcontinent within very short time, and difference was political NOT religious), also USSR was very developed country with strong economy at that time (in sixties), and could mobilise its army in very short time to counter attack/attack if needed, I would agree there were stupid leaders, but most of the time there were actually puppets of in hands of NKVD (and later KGB).
Please check you info before posting.

The USSR wasnt a strong economic power in the 60s because all its leaders were doing was pouring endless amounts of money into the arms/space race to compare cocks with America. 'Mines bigger than yours! No its not, mine is.' And so on and so forth.

Dont get me wrong, i love Russia, want to go there someday, but they royally screwed up trying to keep up with the states. America just has too many natural resources and trade deals for most other nations to keep up with.

In more recent news the cultural editor of the Danish paper that first published the cartoons has just been sent on 'indefinite leave'. $20 says he gets shot within a week. Like the Danish movie director who made aa movie that was seemingly anti-Muslim.

[sergei]

Come to think of USSR (and Russia now), the only problem was and is mismanagment.
Unlike USA it can be completely independent, it has got more natural resources (oil, gas, coal, precious metals, gem stones, nuklear fuel, forrest, food, etc), so in '60 it was a great expans in exploiting those resources and in fact if you ask some one like my grand parents they would say it were the best times to live, becuase every thing they needed was available at that time.

[method]

Alright your kind of right, just looked it up, cold war 1947- 1980's

I thought it was mid 40's and the 50's, just after ww2.

And americans do fight in the name of god, christianity has the most blood on its hands by far out of any religion, but then again christianity has been around for a very long time.

In my ideal world we would just take out those extreemist countries.

Funny how the US isn't supporting the europian countries and said that they should be more culturaly sensitive. But after all the middle east owns 6 - 7% of America in investments and keep over a trillion us in us banks..

[Punter]

Americans DO NOT fight for GOD! they fight for OIL!

Their Government fights for oil, the US people fight for god.

[FXGTV]

Americans DO NOT fight for GOD! they fight for OIL!

Their Government fights for oil, the US people fight for god.

Now now children, i tried to get this back on tpic, but alas If you want to debate the merits of America start a 'America, yay or neigh' thread

[Silent Knight]

I guess the Christian and Muslim worlds will never be able to co-exist because both are powered by such radical moral extreems.

Please don't post crap of which you sound like an idiot. You obviously have no idea what 'Christian' morals are do you?

Majority of Christians and Muslims all around the world co-exist quite peacefully. We are not extremists as you so kindly put it and niether are we 'radical'.

There are certain sub groups within the different Religious groups that are radical extremists but please don't make the mistake of assuming that the group as whole all fall under that umbrella.

Here's a quick thought....*Research first - Post later*. You won't sound as dumb.

[sergei]

Here is the fine example that those people will become violent for any reason:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4696254.stm

[Punter]

Here is the fine example that those people will become violent for any reason:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4696254.stm

Sigh,

Please explain who "Those" people are again.

Anyway, That article looks like an argument that turned in a big brawl, you know like what happens with gangs etc. all over the world.
Or was it simply because they were forign and different.

This stuff is a bad overreaction, but it happens all the time all over the world.

[gurutasker]

There are certain sub groups within the different Religious groups that are radical extremists but please don't make the mistake of assuming that the group as whole all fall under that umbrella.

I'm not one to stereotype religious activities, and I'm sure as with anything it's usually the minorities messing it up for the majority.. however the scale in which the Muslim community has reacted violantly (Particularly overseas) looks to be a lot larger than a small 'radical extremist' group, which is the troubling fact about this incident to me.. then again, it could just be the media making it seem that way

[Punter]

.... looks to be a lot larger than a small 'radical extremist' group, which is the troubling fact about this incident to me.. then again, it could just be the media making it seem that way

You making a bit of a reference to palistine voting in Hummas (sp?).

That worried me much more than this incedent ever will.

[FXGTV]

I guess the Christian and Muslim worlds will never be able to co-exist because both are powered by such radical moral extreems.

Please don't post crap of which you sound like an idiot. You obviously have no idea what 'Christian' morals are do you?

Majority of Christians and Muslims all around the world co-exist quite peacefully. We are not extremists as you so kindly put it and niether are we 'radical'.

There are certain sub groups within the different Religious groups that are radical extremists but please don't make the mistake of assuming that the group as whole all fall under that umbrella.

Here's a quick thought....*Research first - Post later*. You won't sound as dumb.

Hey man, point made, but how about you get off your high horse and debate the case, not the people making the case. I have a fairly good idea what Christian morals are, being that i spent 10 years in a catholic education and now study religion at uni Your statement was just as ambiguous as mine, with exactly the same amount of factual info (i.e zero) so your just as bad as me buddy

When i referred to radical moral extreems i was referring to the two very distinct societies that Christians and Muslims live in, because the actualy morals of both religions are very similar (with ouf course some minor and fundamental exceptions)
This brings us back to the free speech (Christian) v respect (muslim) debate which is what this poll is about.

[Mr GTZ]

All I can understand is that if someone was gonna do something and they knew it was gonna piss me off I wouldnt be a coward and let it fly by, I'll stand there like a man and fight for that shit...!!!
Not to the extremes of war and shit but what Im getting at is why fuel there rage when you know there gona keep coming back and do more fcuked up things which gets us to do even more fcuked up things....!!!!
Too me both sides are killing little kids and that shit fully sucks...!!!!

[gurutasker]

Too me both sides are killing little kids and that sh*t fully sucks...!!!!

I never saw anything about Danish people killing kids? :S

[Mr GTZ]

My bad I was meaning the americans but I also agree that I didnt see any reason that the muslims shud get upset with those pictures Im sure there has been worse pics more offending to other people.