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are 20V's really better than 16

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Postby Silent Knight » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:51 pm

4TEAZN wrote:silver top 20valve all the way ive been in a ae92,ae101 and ae111 levins with just exhaust and filter on all three and i felt the silver top was alot quicker. in saying that the blue top 16v seems to be the best for consistent power through the rev range i felt.


AE111 does not have a Silvertop...
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Postby HELBND » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:56 pm

Silent Knight wrote:
4TEAZN wrote:silver top 20valve all the way ive been in a ae92,ae101 and ae111 levins with just exhaust and filter on all three and i felt the silver top was alot quicker. in saying that the blue top 16v seems to be the best for consistent power through the rev range i felt.


AE111 does not have a Silvertop...


neither does an ae92 ;)

i think he means out of the three, he felt the silvertop was quicker
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:10 pm

the only reason ppl think silvertops "under perform" is due to the factory quoted figures. that and they hate our fuel.... run em on 98 and they are good.
dyno day plots mean nothing.....
iv owned and driven all examples of the 4age, except the black top, to know what im talking about.
stock for stock the 20vs are better.

can anyone claim low 15s with a stock 16v?
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Postby escortman » Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:11 am

as revhead sed wat 16 valves do low 15s standard
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Postby Defective » Fri Apr 21, 2006 2:55 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:
can anyone claim low 15s with a stock 16v?



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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:44 pm

stfu you mitsi owner!
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Postby DJ » Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:59 pm

16 Values are best! :D

4AGTE/ZE for the win.
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Postby Lloyd » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:03 am

Because all 4AGTEs are 16V.... :roll:

Depends entirely on your definition of "better"
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Postby sergei » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:40 am

I've driven all 4AGE generation, and silver top feels a more torqueier than anything else (in 4AGE). Big borts they feel like have big flat spot between 0 and 4500rpm, small ports just feel flat, black top feels like it is almost in power band but never gets there...
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Postby B1NZ » Sat Apr 22, 2006 12:34 pm

sergei wrote:I've driven all 4AGE generation, and silver top feels a more torqueier than anything else (in 4AGE). Big borts they feel like have big flat spot between 0 and 4500rpm, small ports just feel flat, black top feels like it is almost in power band but never gets there...


really? I think it the other way around? Silvertops never really seem to get there
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Postby Lith » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:50 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:can anyone claim low 15s with a stock 16v?


I've never seen anyone run a low 15 in a stock 20v, so why should a 16v live up to that?
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Postby CozmoNz » Mon Apr 24, 2006 3:53 pm

B1NZ wrote:
sergei wrote:I've driven all 4AGE generation, and silver top feels a more torqueier than anything else (in 4AGE). Big borts they feel like have big flat spot between 0 and 4500rpm, small ports just feel flat, black top feels like it is almost in power band but never gets there...


really? I think it the other way around? Silvertops never really seem to get there


Agreed, Blacktop feels the best though :D
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Postby Brick » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:50 pm

Lith wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:can anyone claim low 15s with a stock 16v?


I've never seen anyone run a low 15 in a stock 20v, so why should a 16v live up to that?

Ive seen people at ruapuna do high 14's with a pod and exhaust tip
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Postby Lith » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:47 pm

Brick wrote:
Lith wrote:
Mr Revhead wrote:can anyone claim low 15s with a stock 16v?


I've never seen anyone run a low 15 in a stock 20v, so why should a 16v live up to that?

Ive seen people at ruapuna do high 14's with a pod and exhaust tip


Probably some interior pulled out as well, yeah?? That ain't stock....
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:31 pm

dead stock as run on the road high 14s possible for blacktop.
mid to low 15s for silvertops
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Postby B1NZ » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:04 am

I've done 14.9's on totally stock excluding the exhaust, full interior etc, So with standard exhaust I'm sure it would've done low 15's
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Postby Michel H » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:39 am

Just reading through this..and couldn't resist to bump it, sorry :)

Below are 2 vids, ae92 GTi Redtop 16v & ae101 BT20v (swapped)
The ae92 has no interior left in it, it weighs 980kg. With 2 persons it's about 1120kg. The ae101 weighs about the same (1040kg + driver). The ae101 still has the 180km/u speed limiter. Both engines are stock except for airfilters.

http://www.jpc-board.nl/16vs20.WMV
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Postby metal_sean_head » Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:53 am

big port 16V!
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Postby Adamal » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:06 pm

Dude, wtf, this thread is so old, it was around before Cozmo was banned.
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Postby sergei » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:40 pm

Just WTF? This old as :)
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