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Have you been/are you currently personally affected by some form of mental illness?

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Postby Silent Knight » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:23 am

Most of what I have read so far has nothing remotely to do with mental ilness. You people are all describing what little 'habits' you have.

AFAIK having a habid be it good or bad has nothing to do with a mental ilness.

I have my doubts about most people knowing exactly what a mental ilness is and how exactly it functions (what affect it has on different people/personalities).
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Postby Gemms » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:22 am

depends because people have different ideas of what mental illness is.
i have a mental illness but not many people can tell with me.. ask zeph she knows for a fact that i do. but i am not going to write down a huge storey of the inns and outs of my life and my hardships on a forum :) all i have to say is if people have problems go to a counsellor.
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Postby CaM » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:34 am

Silent Knight wrote:Most of what I have read so far has nothing remotely to do with mental ilness. You people are all describing what little 'habits' you have.

AFAIK having a habid be it good or bad has nothing to do with a mental ilness.

I have my doubts about most people knowing exactly what a mental ilness is and how exactly it functions (what affect it has on different people/personalities).


best post yet, good man

sadly the medical pros see this sorta shit as an ilness, be it adhd or ocd or whatever
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Postby mr pad » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:12 am

CaM wrote:
Silent Knight wrote:Most of what I have read so far has nothing remotely to do with mental ilness. You people are all describing what little 'habits' you have.

AFAIK having a habid be it good or bad has nothing to do with a mental ilness.

I have my doubts about most people knowing exactly what a mental ilness is and how exactly it functions (what affect it has on different people/personalities).


best post yet, good man

sadly the medical pros see this sorta sh*t as an ilness, be it adhd or ocd or whatever


yep and lots of people are happy to accept what they tell them and use having a mental illness as an excuse for not sorting out their shit, or why bad shit keeps occuring, guess its easier than actually sorting your problems out... :roll:
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Postby CaM » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:18 am

true story,
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Postby FXGTV » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:45 pm

mr pad wrote:
FXGTV wrote:I can also only eat two m&ms at once...don't quite know why though :oops:


you could just try eating one m&m at a time?.... do it. I dare you.


Last time i tried smoke started comming out my ears and i spazzed out.

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Postby Carpet Burn » Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:35 pm

mr pad wrote:
CaM wrote:
Silent Knight wrote:Most of what I have read so far has nothing remotely to do with mental ilness. You people are all describing what little 'habits' you have.

AFAIK having a habid be it good or bad has nothing to do with a mental ilness.

I have my doubts about most people knowing exactly what a mental ilness is and how exactly it functions (what affect it has on different people/personalities).


best post yet, good man

sadly the medical pros see this sorta sh*t as an ilness, be it adhd or ocd or whatever


yep and lots of people are happy to accept what they tell them and use having a mental illness as an excuse for not sorting out their sh*t, or why bad sh*t keeps occuring, guess its easier than actually sorting your problems out... :roll:


Well i have depression, and its got nothing to do not wanting to deal with stuff and i certainly dont use it as an excuess, plus like at the moment im fine, but at somestage i prob wont be again, its just the way it is, id love to be able to be 'normal' but it aint gunna happen, it must be nice not going to hell and back.
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Postby FXGTV » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:08 pm

Everybody gets depressed at at some stage in their lives...some more than others. I don't think depression should be grouped with mental illness, as mental illness is something which is happening to you that is deemed to be not normal. But thats not to say depression isn't as serious or sucky as a mental illness, its just different.
Depression cannot be classed as an illness because it is normal. Depression is a very powerful and unpleasant emotion, but it is part of life. Something like schizophrenia is an illness because it is not normal to bite off your mums finger and then gouge her eyes out (an incident i read about in the paer today...his mum probably walked in on him whacking the weasle)
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Postby Punter » Fri Mar 31, 2006 12:30 am

FXGTV wrote:Depression cannot be classed as an illness because it is normal.


So when someone kills themselves because of depression thats normal??

Seriously it's like some of you think depression is just when you feel like shit, its not. Feeling like shit is normal and it happens to everyone now and again, Depression is not normal and needs treatmant.
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Postby mr pad » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:56 am

Carpet Burn wrote:Well i have depression, and its got nothing to do not wanting to deal with stuff and i certainly dont use it as an excuess, plus like at the moment im fine, but at somestage i prob wont be again, its just the way it is, id love to be able to be 'normal' but it aint gunna happen, it must be nice not going to hell and back.


uhh ok. but I wasn't talking about you, or anyone in particular, there are just a lot of people that ARE like what I described. Theres no such thing as normal and everyone has issues, if you think you are the only human that goes through "hard times", your not. The situation could always be worse.
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Postby Gemms » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:08 pm

what if you have depression due to something that happened to you that you couldnt control? like childhood abuse or something like that
is that not classed as a mental illness and surely its not classed as 'normal'
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Postby mr pad » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:20 pm

Gemms wrote:what if you have depression due to something that happened to you that you couldnt control? like childhood abuse or something like that
is that not classed as a mental illness and surely its not classed as 'normal'


well actually most people I know have gone through some sort of drama, and how it has affected them would probably relate to how they deal with it, and imo a lesser extent to their genetic make up.

i know people who have gone through things... some are affected, some deal with it, some, if they went to a doctor could get branded with a stamp.

what you have described might not be described as a mental illness, but could be if truama stemmed from whatever happened... know what i mean. depends how the person delt with it.
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Postby soopachargen » Fri Mar 31, 2006 3:50 pm

I've been told i have depression. I take tablets for it. You can tell me to harden up if you want, but the reality of it is that without the medication I'd have violent mood swings and probably not be here today. It's easy to say get over it... i say it to myself, but when you're in that dark horrible place its scary as hell and there is no amount of thinking happy thoughts that will bring you back.
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Postby mr pad » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:16 pm

boogergrom wrote:stuff


you talking to me? re-read what I said. Im not pointing fingers or making light of things. I understand the seriousness of mental illness, but there is another side to it to, which may or may not have anything to do with you.
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Postby soopachargen » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:31 pm

mr pad wrote:
boogergrom wrote:stuff


you talking to me? re-read what I said. Im not pointing fingers or making light of things. I understand the seriousness of mental illness, but there is another side to it to, which may or may not have anything to do with you.


nah i was just adding my piece
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Postby Carpet Burn » Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:10 pm

boogergrom wrote:I've been told i have depression. I take tablets for it. You can tell me to harden up if you want, but the reality of it is that without the medication I'd have violent mood swings and probably not be here today. It's easy to say get over it... i say it to myself, but when you're in that dark horrible place its scary as hell and there is no amount of thinking happy thoughts that will bring you back.


Totally agree, being told to snap out it is pretty ar5e too! BIG difference in being sad and being depressed, it feels awful and you just cant see how to get out of it, makes you very cloudy, yuck.... hate it! :(
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Postby ollieboy » Fri Mar 31, 2006 7:27 pm

I hate it when people don't know what depression really is and they think you can just change your mood like that.

One week my depression was really bad and I spent the whole week in bed. It would have been normal if I wanted one day off school but I had the whole week.

To those who say depression is not a mental illness have obviously never experienced it and I am happy you haven't, you wouldn't want to. (And I hope you never do.)

And also to the people who say OCD is not a mental illness, what about my friend who has to wash his hands everytime he touches something, you might say thats just a wee quirk but it gets so bad he ends up scrubbing for hours until his hands are bleeding. He rarely sleeps at night just in case he left something on that could catch fire. And it gets worse then that.

Thats all I have to say.


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Postby BlakJak » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:01 pm

I don't think anyone is trying to make out that those with genuine issues, don't have issues.

Just that there are many whos issues seem to be such 'borderline' cases that the whole definition of a mental illness is being soured.
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Postby CaM » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:13 pm

yuh, nobvodies bagging those with a real problem, more the authorities that brandish people with the idea that they have a real issue instead of that person having to come to terms with their situation and get off their ass and do something about it, instead of settling for an excuse.

good on you guys that are affected for talking about it.. Im an understanding person but this thread has opened my eyes to a few more of the 'common' problems out there. didn't really understand the ocd thing pre this.

I have a friend who suffers from depression and OCD, fully genuine etc. that person has promised themselves to never be medicated again, and has worked their way past it, pretty much. he has his quirks but in general is sorted. different things work for different cases
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Postby Brick » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:14 pm

ollieboy wrote:And also to the people who say OCD is not a mental illness, what about my friend who has to wash his hands everytime he touches something, you might say thats just a wee quirk but it gets so bad he ends up scrubbing for hours until his hands are bleeding. He rarely sleeps at night just in case he left something on that could catch fire. And it gets worse then that.

i also no a chick with OCD, but one of the things she is obssesed about is me. She has been after me since January last year. I can wake up at my mtes house after a party or wat ever and find he asleep nex to me with her arm around me. She does almost anything to see or be with me, even when someone crashed into a car sh was in she rung me instead of a ambulance(she has hemafilia (sp) that thing where you keep bleeding). She has to go to the counciler about me and everyone is just sick of her talking about me.
I feel sorry for her cos she trys so hard and there is nothing she can do about it. If im nice she makes stuff up about me, saying we had sex and stuff (never have ith her) and if im mean she actually likes it and makes up more shit but bad stuff.
all thats a bit of an ego boost :P but ill never win
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