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well? are they good, bad or evil?

Oops, i voted wrongly I meant to say they're crap, but put 'yes they're the shizzle.

I think the 20v driver mentality of believing they are driving the world's quickest road car is the main issue I have against them.

good all round cars, better than most NA 1600's up to 2000cc but shitty by performance car standards

Bleh, 2.0L 16V for lyfe!


*incomming rant from cosmo iminment*

pervert wrote:I think the 20v driver mentality of believing they are driving the world's quickest road car is the main issue I have against them.

Well put, just what I was thinking.

I don't like the characteristics of the 20v. They are known to be shit outside of their 5000rpm-7000rpm powerband. Same goes for B16A's and the likes.

What would you rather race with? High power (relevent to capacity) in a narrow band or a bit less power over a more broad band? It's good to have some up and go in the lower rev range. Because realistically in a race, keeping it within a 2000rpm range the whole time is not gonna happen.

I don't mind 20v's, I just don't like drivers with the mentality like most Vtec drivers that think peak power is the be all and end all.

I'd rather go for a tuned 16v, or a Group A 20v that has a much wider powerband (Although its power starts at 6000rpm!)

hehehe i like my 20v cos its the first "performance" car ive owned but im sure once ive had a few other drives ill change my mind.

dont like the fact silver tops are a pain in the ass to turbo

I'm not the biggest fan of 20V Levins but 20V AW11's are the shizzle

Utter shite

16v / morningside for lyfe

good motors.

too many valves.

I hav a 20v Silver top in my Marino. It goes alright from about 4500rpm.
But this is my first real preformance car. But i do see its limited interest.

Dodgy Guy wrote:dont like the fact silver tops are a pain in the ass to turbo

I'v been thinking of doing that to my one. Whats the problem?

good engines, but still 1600 high revving .

next cars gonna be turbo when i have a better insurance record

pervert wrote:I think the 20v driver mentality of believing they are driving the world's quickest road car is the main issue I have against them.

I have a 20v and I don't think my car is the fastest in the world

You could be forgiven for saying that about me when I get my next 20v (audi s3, 1.8l 20v turbo). But that's not likely to happen in this lifetime

GT Girl wrote:

pervert wrote:I think the 20v driver mentality of believing they are driving the world's quickest road car is the main issue I have against them.

I have a 20v and I don't think my car is the fastest in the world

You could be forgiven for saying that about me when I get my next 20v (audi s3, 1.8l 20v turbo). But that's not likely to happen in this lifetime

I have 12 more valves than you

...you know i dont even know what valves do for a car.

Try again. 4 more valves

3 Valves per cylinder in a 1UZ.... Okashinaaaaaa....

And as for what valves to:

You've got the tappets which are pushed up against the valve with springs. Cam lobes rotate with cam shaft to push tappets down and make the valve 'open'. This lets the mixture of air and fuel into the cylinder.
After the combustion is complete, the other cam rotates and opens the exhaust valve, letting the remaining gasses out.

Adamal wrote:Try again. 4 more valves

3 Valves per cylinder in a 1UZ.... Okashinaaaaaa....

Pssst, they have 32 valves all up

haha whats the bet thats where Dr_X found out how an engine works

Mmm, Boost wrote:

Adamal wrote:Try again. 4 more valves

3 Valves per cylinder in a 1UZ.... Okashinaaaaaa....

Pssst, they have 32 valves all up

Really? I remember reading somewhere that they only had 24 valves, which I thought WAS quite strange.