Twin Turbo 2.5 Soarer vs vr4 Legnum

[UZZ30]

Just a really basic poll which is the faster and better Stock standard car around a random track (say pukekohe) and on the 1/4 mile? TT soarer or vr4 legnum. (both are Twin Turbo and 2.5L 6 cylinders and similar weight.)

Id go for TT soarer for both... Its got a superb 1jz-gte motor dont think mitsis have an engine as fancy as those

This guy i know thinks Legnums are alot better so... theres the base for this poll...

Theres obviously alot of variables etc.. just want some general opinions

[V8MOFO]

I dont know the numbers so I will just go for personal preference.
Soarer

[no_8wire]

I would say VR4 for the 4wd...

[UZZ30]

yeah 4wd is the only advantage i can think of for the vr4

[Al]

Those VR4s can do high 13s even if it was auto with a filter/exhaust. Don't really see a Soarer being able to do that on the goat track. I'm pretty sure a guy here cut 13.8 with just a pod on his TT Legnum auto.

[flygt4]

those 2.5's in the legnums are pretty decent , and have the advantage of being available in manual. either way neither of them are earth shattering standard. i love the soarers ,they are a better platform to modify, but id probly have to take the mitsi if i was to keep it standard.

[Mr.Phreak]

The TT's were available in Manual as well.....although rather rare

My money would be on the VR4 down the 1/4, on the track.....hard call

[Lloyd]

But which would be more fun?

[UZZ30]

Legnums to me dont have the quality, style or 'wow' factor and original looks as the soarer has.... their just 'another' typical car with a powerfull engine.

[Emperor]

Can a TT VR4 with just pod really do 13's?

[UZZ30]

Ive read TT soarers can do low 14's with a few mods such as intake exhaust. Not sure about legnums but id say they would perform almost the same

[Al]

Can a TT VR4 with just pod really do 13's?

Well unless I'm mistaken, I think I may just have written that a few posts ago.

[Mr Revhead]

Well unless I'm mistaken

could Al be the next Muddly Talker?

mate has a VR4 wagon, its manual, was auto, and i was actually quite impressed with how it went. id say a soarer would be hard pusehed to beat one in stock trim.

how ever the soarer would win all the time. because its a toyota and the legnum a mitsi.... and would break

[Emperor]

Can a TT VR4 with just pod really do 13's?

Well unless I'm mistaken, I think I may just have written that a few posts ago.

My mate reckons it'd never do 13's because he thinks all wagons suck except for Subarus'. Dickhead.

[UZZ30]

how ever the soarer would win all the time. because its a toyota and the legnum a mitsi.... and would break

Well said. lol

If you look on trade me theres many Mitsis with reconditioned gearboxes or engines at 100,000kms-150,000kms. Just shows how eazily they break!!

I dont see many Toyotas with reasonably low kms with reconditioned gearboxes, lol

[Al]

Yeah reliability Toyota > Mitsi anyday. However I wouldnt question the strength of the boxes or motors, they are usually pretty tough. Its everything else that falls apart or breaks.

[edwagon]

The mitsi would probably get off the line quicker due to 4wd, but neither car to especially exciting in stock form - jz has more potential, but it all comes down to what mods are done to each as to how good/quick a car they turn out to be.

Honestly though, legnum is a family stationwagon, soarer is a heavy 2 door grand tourer, 4wd vs Rwd, two completely different vehicles for different types of owner.
I would take the soarer anyday because I like them, but it would be hopeless if I needed a wagon.

Im wary of the mitsi V6 having done plenty of work on them, I wouldn't say its a weak drivetrain at all, but jz would easily be stronger. Having destroyed a TT soarer trans, I don't have anything nice to say about them tho either- manual is the only way to go in either case.

[XERO]

My mate reckons it'd never do 13's because he thinks all wagons suck except for Subarus'. Dickhead.

Booooooooo

[Ako]

Can a TT VR4 with just pod really do 13's?

*coughdoneitcough*

[bad20v]

Can a TT VR4 with just pod really do 13's?

*coughdoneitcough*

*cough... I think he was talking about legnum VR-4's not Sedan's... cough*




I've got three mates with Legnums... 1 x VR-4, 2 x ST-R's

..... all had to rebuild or replace gearboxes before 120,000km's!
..... all have had turbo problems!
..... all have had overheating problems!

......reliabilty??? I think not!

I have two mates with Soarer's... both TT but one auto and one manual....

.... never had a problem with transmissions or any other part! ( except for wearing out the rear tyres! )


My 5c.




I would go for the Soarer.... I would rather finish the race than have to fix my car half way through.