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Help me here - What should I choose for Racing?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2003 11:24 pm
by skoty
As a lot of you people know, I need a new dirt track race car for when I turn 17 or there abouts, I'm ideally looking for a cheap and light weight 4WD Turbo and manual of corse :roll: It doesn't have to be a toyota, anything will be considered so I was wondering on you peoplez choices on this :twisted: Just consider that it can't be too small and weak, heavy, slow and not have too many traction issues :wink: Please give me some ideas as I just thought up just a few off the top of my head and I'm sure there are more and maybe better options :)

Cheers,

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 10:39 am
by Carlos
My old flatmate has a 1985 Langley Turbo (Pulsar) that he races in B Grade in Gisborne and it is a super car, so I would have to say a forced induction small car seems to be ideal ...

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:22 am
by corolla coupe
12A turbo KP60 :twisted:

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 1:30 pm
by skoty
corolla coupe wrote:12A turbo KP60 :twisted:


I thought about a good 'ol KP60 but I would get killed since they are very small :( as the class is impact 8O They used to race rotarys but they never got any traction so they don't use them anymore.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 1:40 pm
by Shotgun
Buy a munted GT4 from the damaged vehicle auctions, do a rangi fix-up job, lock the difs. Sorted.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:06 pm
by CaM
SlIdEwAyZ_RaCeR wrote:
corolla coupe wrote:12A turbo KP60 :twisted:


I thought about a good 'ol KP60 but I would get killed since they are very small :( as the class is impact 8O They used to race rotarys but they never got any traction so they don't use them anymore.


get a subaru brumby ute, chuck a 13b turbo, pp in it, running 4wd still...traction prob sorted, and you will also have a rota!!!!!!!!!! woo hoo!!!!!

or, a 4wd bongo van, chuck a rota in it, blah

mazda bfmr 1600 dohc turbs, (4wd)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:32 pm
by deaf_rattle
a celica supra would be quite good for dirt racing.
Im presuming you are talking about an oval track?
170hp rwd is all good and weighing in at 1275kgs it shouldnt be too hard to get it close to the 1000kg mark.
Parts are hard to get, but then again you wont be needing mint panels so you should be sweet.
the gearbox is also tougher than bens grandma.
Need any more info feel free to chat on icq 57079108
cheers

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:17 pm
by Roush
gtx familia

i love them

they're sexy and they go hard

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:22 pm
by ~SlideWays~
maybe a 4wd turbo subaru leone? what kind of price they go for?

ive talked to some rally ppl who use them (it was at a grasskana not actually doing a rally at the time) and they seem to go pretty hard.

just a suggestion? :D

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 7:24 pm
by ~SlideWays~
TurboFetish: that '85 pulsar idea isnt bad....i've seen quite a few around and they are cheap as 8)

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:36 pm
by skoty
TurboFetish wrote:My old flatmate has a 1985 Langley Turbo (Pulsar) that he races in B Grade in Gisborne and it is a super car, so I would have to say a forced induction small car seems to be ideal ...


Yeah, I would have to go for turbo definatly I reckon :P

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:39 pm
by skoty
Shotgun wrote:Buy a munted GT4 from the damaged vehicle auctions, do a rangi fix-up job, lock the difs. Sorted.


How much do you reckon a munted ST165 Celica GT4 cost? I probably don't really want to spend for than $1500.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:48 pm
by skoty
deaf_rattle wrote:a celica supra would be quite good for dirt racing.
Im presuming you are talking about an oval track?
170hp rwd is all good and weighing in at 1275kgs it shouldnt be too hard to get it close to the 1000kg mark.
Parts are hard to get, but then again you wont be needing mint panels so you should be sweet.
the gearbox is also tougher than bens grandma.
Need any more info feel free to chat on icq 57079108
cheers


Yeah, a lot of people have those RWD Celica Supras at dirt track (some guy blew his up last meeting :( ), they are well built and strong (which you need in impact) The straight 6 goes hard and they are lighter than supras, are they turbo?, or are only some models turbo? Oh yeah, the dirt track isn't completly oval it's got a hair pin at one end which you really need a grunty RWD to pull yourself through, us juniors don't pull through too good in our FWD's unfortunatly :( Any other info would be appreciated :lol: , cheers.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:54 pm
by skoty
cargzm wrote:gtx familia

i love them

they're sexy and they go hard


hehe, i don't know if I would be too proud of driving one of them but then again, some guy races a 4 door one at dirt track and it hauls ass, however another dudes 4AGZE powered Corolla pisses all over it :lol: , good 'ol toyota power :D

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2003 11:58 pm
by skoty
~SlideWays~ wrote:TurboFetish: that '85 pulsar idea isnt bad....i've seen quite a few around and they are cheap as 8)


Are you talking about the turbo ones?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 12:01 am
by skoty
~SlideWays~ wrote:maybe a 4wd turbo subaru leone? what kind of price they go for?

ive talked to some rally ppl who use them (it was at a grasskana not actually doing a rally at the time) and they seem to go pretty hard.

just a suggestion? :D


Hey, the neighbours got a turbo Leone sitting in long grass that hasn't been touched in months :)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 12:03 am
by skoty
get a subaru brumby ute, chuck a 13b turbo, pp in it, running 4wd still...traction prob sorted, and you will also have a rota!!!!!!!!!! woo hoo!!!!!

or, a 4wd bongo van, chuck a rota in it, blah

mazda bfmr 1600 dohc turbs, (4wd)


Well, least it's a suggestion I guess :wink: , I think the familia 1600 turbo option would be more promising :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 10:06 am
by deaf_rattle
some of the celica supras are turboed, pretty rare tho, think it was a 1ggte motor.
it is pretty cheap to turbo a 5mge (2.8l straight 6) using parts from a 7mgte.
built like tanks.
$1500 will get you a mint one, which you can then sell some good parts off it to make some money back, and then buy some parts not as mint.
like doors and hatch etc if in mint condition and then slightly damaged ones, as you dont need mint looking car.
Any more info needed just ask.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 7:03 pm
by Carlos
Have a close read of the rules

In the Gisborne B Grade meets ...
The motor has to be standard for the car (no conversions)
No 4WD, but 4WD cars can be converted to 2WD

Some rules might be different for you, but you should look at them closely before choosing. Also choose a car that has heaps of spares - my flatmate had his B Grade all prestine and other drivers AIMED for him!!!

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2003 10:25 pm
by skoty
TurboFetish wrote:Have a close read of the rules

In the Gisborne B Grade meets ...
The motor has to be standard for the car (no conversions)
No 4WD, but 4WD cars can be converted to 2WD

Some rules might be different for you, but you should look at them closely before choosing. Also choose a car that has heaps of spares - my flatmate had his B Grade all prestine and other drivers AIMED for him!!!


We are allowed 4WD's as far as I know, but before I jump into anything I'll do my research definatly. I think the good 'ol Celica Supra option is best so far.