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This stems from a conversation I was just having with a friend on MSN.

Apparently the current statistic is 1 in 5 people personally have been, or are currently affected, by some form of mental illness...

What I'm wondering is: Will this statistic carry over to the Toyspeed populace?

Please try to keep on topic, and please try to refrain from giving silly replies.

Not that i know of !

ADHD hereeeeehaywhatsthatoverthere?

alright whoes the one mental person!

jks

Yeah im mental, been on pills for it too. 5 people i work with have the same thing! Very common to have mental illness. The worst thing is people not being good about it and not understanding at all! Santa is good, hes still with me even though im nuts! My ex couldnt deal at all....dick

I have Mad Cow Desease...

But nah on a more serious note, Carpet Burn what do you have?
How exactly does it affect you/make you different from anyone else?

I only ask as I'm not really too clued up about this sort of thing so I don't know how people are affected by it. Don't worry if don't want to share on a public board, that's fully understandable aswell.

Silent Knight wrote:ICarpet Burn what do you have?
How exactly does it affect you/make you different from anyone else?

shes a damn typical OTT female

Santa'sBoostinSleigh wrote:

Silent Knight wrote:ICarpet Burn what do you have?
How exactly does it affect you/make you different from anyone else?

shes a damn typical OTT female

good to see they have pills for that shit though

I have a mental Illiness - I have had it since I was 15, so 6 years

After deciding that I didnt like the med's I was on - I had to learn over time how to control it - which I think i'm handling well

Sometimes I'm skeptical about alledged 'mental illness'

eg.
your situation at home sucks.
you have a shitty, dead end job.
No friends,
No girlfriend/boyfriend.
No prospects for improvement etc.

OMG, the doctor says that you're depressed, and you have a mental illness!
Does this mean that something is wrong with your brain, and you need some pills?

$&#$% NO! It's because your life is shitty!

It's your brain/body's way of telling you to sort your shit out.

Popping pills to try to improve your situation is the worst thing you can do IMO.

(In a situation like above, at least.... I wish my (ex)mate with paranoid schizophrenia got some help before he burnt those churches)

RomanV wrote:Sometimes I'm skeptical about alledged 'mental illness'

W3rd. From experience some people are quite happy to jump on and blame all their issues on that kinda shit. When it could be sorted by doing things differently, not popping happy pills. Not trying to knock anyone who is actually affected cause its no laughing matter.... but I guess what im saying is I could go see a doc, have a waaah, then bam im on pills... and yeah it is that easy.

RomanV wrote:Sometimes I'm skeptical about alledged 'mental illness'

eg.
your situation at home sucks.
you have a shitty, dead end job.
No friends,
No girlfriend/boyfriend.
No prospects for improvement etc.

OMG, the doctor says that you're depressed, and you have a mental illness!
Does this mean that something is wrong with your brain, and you need some pills?

$&#$% NO! It's because your life is shitty!

It's your brain/body's way of telling you to sort your sh*t out.

Popping pills to try to improve your situation is the worst thing you can do IMO.

(In a situation like above, at least.... I wish my (ex)mate with paranoid schizophrenia got some help before he burnt those churches)

I was affected by depression, and yes is was because of a shitty family situation, but I think that its attitudes like yours that those ads are trying to target. (I'm assuming it those ads that started this)

They are real medical problems, my brain was sick. Its like living in unhygienic conditions you will get sick, and you can't just snap out of it either, can you snap out of a cholera??

I think you will find a lot of people who are/have been affected by something of this nature, prefer to try and work it out and live with it without the pills... cause the pills can really mess you up even more than what's affecting you sometimes.

Mental Illness is a very hard word to classify.. because a lot of the time it's not a permanent thing, it can come with puberty, or a certain time in your life where things change.

I don't agree with people using Mental Illness as an excuse, as a "way out" as such.. because even people that are affected want to live normal lives, (and i don't disagree in using medication to aid that). Not moan and blame everything on their issue.

Most people I know that are affected are pretty cool people

I think 1 in 5 is an exagguration, unless you're simply talking about the fact that some people have a lot of stuff to 'chew on'.

Theres extreme cases of course, but when it comes down to it, we all have up and down days, etc, some of it is just a crock, imho.

However if youre affected enough to actually _need_ medication, then kudos to you for getting it sorted. I just think that theres a general trend of too-much-pill-popping.

Why pop pills when alcohol can fix the problem just as easy?
Dont' even need a subsciption for it...

Punter wrote:I was affected by depression, and yes is was because of a shitty family situation, but I think that its attitudes like yours that those ads are trying to target. (I'm assuming it those ads that started this)

They are real medical problems, my brain was sick. Its like living in unhygienic conditions you will get sick, and you can't just snap out of it either, can you snap out of a cholera??

Well, it would appear that our definition of depression differs then.

IMO, depression is:
A chemical imabalance/deficiency in the brain, which leads to a condition where you are never happy, despite the circumstances.

For these people, I dont dispute the wonders of medication.

However I dont believe that you can 'get' depression because bad things happen... I mean you're depressed because bad things are happening, not because there's something chemically wrong with your brain.
That sounds like a completely natural human reaction to me.

I've had some pretty crazy shit go on in my life, and I had about 4-5 years of my life that were hell...
By your definition, I was probably 'depressed' among other things.
That doesnt mean that there was anything wrong with me physically or mentally, it was just the situation that I was in.

Now that I'm out of this situation, I couldnt be happier.

I can see how popping pills can help get you out of a downwards spiral, but I think it's just as likely to make you avoid your actual problems, as the pills make your situation bearable, rather than it being bad enough that you want to change things.

And many people become dependant on these pills for the rest of their lives, just to feel normal.... when they could have probably sorted things out otherwise.

It's like taking pain killers for having a broken leg, rather than getting it put in a cast.

They might help in the short term, but they arent going to fix your problem.

In the same manner, I think that pills can help ease your short term problems, but if not used in conjunction with some long term solutions to your problems, then they're worse than not having them at all.

gurutasker wrote:I think you will find a lot of people who are/have been affected by something of this nature, prefer to try and work it out and live with it without the pills... cause the pills can really mess you up even more than what's affecting you sometimes.

I agree with that to a point, When I first started on the pills they really helped, but it was a long slow process. Once the problem at hame was sorted I came right. and had no need for pills.

It almost impossible to explain what its like to be in that place, you head just doesn't seem to work properly. I knew I had problems but there was nothing I could do about it.

There is alot of stigma about this sort of stuff, I believe this is mostly because every case is different, there is no standard treatment or reaction.

RomanV wrote:However I dont believe that you can 'get' depression because bad things happen... I mean you're depressed because bad things are happening, not because there's something chemically wrong with your brain.
That sounds like a completely natural human reaction to me.

I deffinatly agree with what your saying, but I believe it is more complex than that.

I know I'm prone to depression (and looking back i always have been) but I'm now able to sort it out in my own head, its not really an issue for me anymore.
It was smiply triggered by an event, does that make in not depression.

RomanV wrote:However I dont believe that you can 'get' depression because bad things happen... I mean you're depressed because bad things are happening, not because there's something chemically wrong with your brain.
That sounds like a completely natural human reaction to me.


It's like taking pain killers for having a broken leg, rather than getting it put in a cast.

They might help in the short term, but they arent going to fix your problem.

In the same manner, I think that pills can help ease your short term problems, but if not used in conjunction with some long term solutions to your problems, then they're worse than not having them at all.

I don't think it should be called 'Depression' for something that you can class as an "Environmental Effect" rather than a "Physical Issue" (If you want to get technical )

But just like you would take panadol to ease a headache while you were working through it, there are times in peoples lives when pills can help them through.

It's just easier to get dependant on anti-depressents than it is panadol.

Been and still am suffering from clinical depression ever since mum died