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what is your opinion on 20V's. do you think there is actely a diffrence in performance. after much research about this i would like to know what NZ's opinion is

Stock for stock, yes the 20v has a fair bit more performance, especially the blacktop, as for reliabilty i still dont think you can beat the old 16V technology!!

WTF? There's figures on paper that say the 20v puts out more power stock than a 16v.

What do you mean 'better' ?

haha *waits for it*

i love em both

OH DEAR GOD NO, SOMEONE BURN THIS THREAD NOWWWW

note - 4agze 4 lyfe.

the newer the engine usually means more powerful than old because of the better technology, but the more "advacned" or with the better "technology" just means more can go wrong

16v rules

standard yes, a blacktop seems to have a bit more performance than a redtop 16.

i havent driven a silvertop, but i seem to have negative perceptions about them, im not sure why.

Dont belive everything you read snwtoy. The figures toyota put out on the 20v are bull. it's been covered many time's. I say 16v cause 20v take it up the jacksie!!!!!

4ageman wrote:Dont belive everything you read snwtoy. The figures toyota put out on the 20v are bull. it's been covered many time's.

does it then make it logical to assume the 16v figures are just as inaccurate?

4ageman wrote:I say 16v cause 20v take it up the jacksie!!!!!

I say 20v just cause id be embarrased to associate myself with anything like the sheer stupidity of this comment

I haven't seen anything to convince me the 20v Silvertop is any better than a normal 16v, most of the dyno figures with basic mods are pretty similar.

Black top is better though

Yeah, the blacktop seems to put out a good amount in many cases, but the silvertop often seems to be a let down.

Perhaps due to high ks, on a high revving engine?

well well find out what a low kms one does when i get it onto the dyno aye dave

i guess no matter what, im still a helluva lot lighter than an ae101

Umm, no. nop. never. negative. hell no. nup.

No.

HELBND wrote:well well find out what a low kms one does when i get it onto the dyno aye dave

Yep, hope it goes well for you.

i guess no matter what, im still a helluva lot lighter than an ae101

Weighbridge or it didnt happen.

my silvertop goes well, iv never had any problems with it, and it goes alot better then a 16v, iv got the last of the silvertop engine, it goes hard and its neva piked out, my mates on his 2nd blacktop engine, they go way better but are alot weaker bottom end

16v - more torque - who needs power in fifth gear?

Who needs fifth gear, when you're driving a 4age like it should be driven?

It's not as if either of them are famous for having gobs of torque.

DJ wrote:Umm, no. nop. never. negative. hell no. nup.

No.

any experience? or you just doing a bandwagon jump?

be happy with either but more valves=coolerer so does more throttle bodies.
\/ just look \/

20vs are better for a one off thrashing, say a track day

16vs better for your daily driver(reliable)

no vote, and my 2c

but as cozmo said ------ weres the 4agze?