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Should I buy this...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:08 pm
by kiwi4agze
Well fate always interupts and offers me something out of the blue.

For 75,000 pounds I can buy a a fully airworthy BAE strike master jet attack aircraft. EX-RNZAF was purchased by the MOD for UAE supply but never was accepted into service.

Should I spend the money and use it in the mean time before the P-40 is finished or should I save my money??

It will be $8,874.36 to import and permit it in NZ.

BAC167 STRIKEMASTER
MK & Serial Number MK.80A 1125
Date of Construction 1976
Fatigue Life Used 73 Flying Hours
Permit To Fly Valid Till April 2014
Total Permited Time (Airframe) 5629 Hours
Total Permited Time (Engine) 533 Hours

Avionic Equipment
GPS/VHF/MODE s
Artificial Horizon
H.S.I
Electric Altimeter
Standard Warning Panel
I.L.S
Transponder

PRICE : £75,000 +VAT

Equipment
Powered Canopy
Air Brakes
Auto Fire Extinguisher
Dual Controls
Pressurisation
Air Conditioning
Exterior
Beige & Tan
Interior Configuration
2 x Martin Baker E/Seats
Permited for 4 (2 per wing) Hardpoints with a capacity of 3,000 lb (1,364 kg) maximum
Internal 7.62mm Rotary style gun (disabled with permit)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:37 pm
by BZG Wagon
1) How much will it cost to finish the P40?
2) Will there be any additional costs once it gets to NZ (maintainance etc)?
3) What's your hobby or the purpose of what you're doing: To build a plane, or simply flying & maintaining planes (a means to an end or an end in itself)?
4) Which plan will give you the most enjoyment (flight wise and maintanance wise)?
5) How much will each cost to maintain, parts availibilty etc.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:44 pm
by deaf_rattle
i dont know why, but ive always been a fan of the strike master. Possibly because i grew up with them flying in my backyard.
A skyhawk wouldve been badass, but yeah id rock a strike master. Although in saying that. A p40 would also rock my boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38G9ZIBZzkk

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:02 pm
by kiwi4agze
BZG Wagon wrote:1) How much will it cost to finish the P40?
2) Will there be any additional costs once it gets to NZ (maintainance etc)?
3) What's your hobby or the purpose of what you're doing: To build a plane, or simply flying & maintaining planes (a means to an end or an end in itself)?
4) Which plan will give you the most enjoyment (flight wise and maintanance wise)?
5) How much will each cost to maintain, parts availibilty etc.


The P-40 will be approx $70,000 all up. This is a very rough estimate as some items maybe cheaper some much more expensive
2) Every year a plane must pass a WOF style test and the engines will need rebuilding etc once every 12 months or so I say on a 1975 plane.
3) Hobby, I fly cause its my hobby. Much like you guys and cars. Nothing better then flying thru the sky with nothing but you and a few birds.
4) I would not stop the P-40, I have just recently sold my previous plane and am looking at getting one to use while the project is underway, once the p-40 is complete maybe either keep both or sell the strikemaster. The strikemaster is a jet, the p-40 is a prop, I do love the sound of a prop, the strikemaster is a lot quicker.
5) parts are easy to find thru the old boys network.

Here is a link to the for sale ad just incase anyone thinks I am FOS!
http://www.everettaero.com/1102.html

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:03 pm
by kiwi4agze
new_breed wrote:i dont know why, but ive always been a fan of the strike master. Possibly because i grew up with them flying in my backyard.
A skyhawk wouldve been badass, but yeah id rock a strike master. Although in saying that. A p40 would also rock my boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38G9ZIBZzkk


Skyhawks are on the Do not trade list as theyare military equiptment, while its easy to find they you can export outside the USA.

The p-40 is a long term project so dont expect it to be ready tomorrow. Give me 3 years to finish it.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:08 pm
by deaf_rattle
kiwi4agze wrote:
new_breed wrote:i dont know why, but ive always been a fan of the strike master. Possibly because i grew up with them flying in my backyard.
A skyhawk wouldve been badass, but yeah id rock a strike master. Although in saying that. A p40 would also rock my boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38G9ZIBZzkk


Skyhawks are on the Do not trade list as theyare military equiptment, while its easy to find they you can export outside the USA.

The p-40 is a long term project so dont expect it to be ready tomorrow. Give me 3 years to finish it.


i thought it was the american avionics that made the skyhawks hard to sell, not their "military" status. The new buyers had to be approved by the us.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:10 pm
by Adoom
I am beginning to have the suspicion that kiwi4agze is rather "well-off".
Building a P40 replica...
Spending $12k on son's first car.
Thinking about buying a NZ$160000 JET! 8O
What does he do for a living?

I am officially jealous of his apparent financial situation

Hell, if I could afford a jet, I would SO buy a jet. But what I really want is a TANK! A BIG one, not a wussy small one.... and a fuel card :twisted:

BUY THE JET! You can park it in my drive! :D

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:16 pm
by deaf_rattle
Adoom wrote:TANK! A BIG one, not a wussy small one.... and a fuel card :twisted:


ha yeah, bugger taking an suv into ponsnoby, take the leopard in for your next latte

Image

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:16 pm
by Mr Revhead
I don't see why you are asking Toyspeed to decide this.

O had mates in the Airforce. They had a cocktail that made of one shot from everything on the top shelf of whatever bar you were in. They called it the Strikemaster.
Why? Because after one you fell out of the sky much like Strikemasters did....

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:17 pm
by kiwi4agze
Adoom wrote:I am beginning to have the suspicion that kiwi4agze is rather "well-off".
Building a P40 replica...
Spending $12k on son's first car.
Thinking about buying a NZ$160000 JET! 8O
What does he do for a living?

I am officially jealous of his apparent financial situation

Hell, if I could afford a jet, I would SO buy a jet. But what I really want is a TANK! A BIG one, not a wussy small one.... and a fuel card :twisted:

BUY THE JET! You can park it in my drive! :D


I didnt buy my son his car, we got him an appartment and a scooter instead..

I can get you a tank, whats your budget????

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:18 pm
by Mr Ree
I would be asking this question on a forum full of plane enthusiasts, as asking them on a car forum seems very strange to me.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:18 pm
by kiwi4agze
Mr Revhead wrote:I don't see why you are asking Toyspeed to decide this.

O had mates in the Airforce. They had a cocktail that made of one shot from everything on the top shelf of whatever bar you were in. They called it the Strikemaster.
Why? Because after one you fell out of the sky much like Strikemasters did....


Not asking, looking for reasurance. Plus slow day at the office today.

I heard something like that but was unsure it was true

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:22 pm
by gurutasker
Keeping with the project car parallel.. I know a lot of people who had project race cars who wish they had gotten something to continue to race in while they were working on their projects.

So my advice would be if the P40 is going to take 3 years (and the $$ don't bother you), and you've just sold your existing plane, then go for it and get this (or some other flying machine) to keep your passion alive while you are working on the project.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:22 pm
by Mr Revhead
Mr Ree wrote:I would be asking this question on a forum full of plane enthusiasts, as asking them on a car forum seems very strange to me.


Who doesn't like planes?! :?


Lol yeah Fridays....
Buy the damn thing! See you at Wanaka!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:22 pm
by deaf_rattle
take one for a test flight?

while you are at it, see if you can line up a test flight in one of these..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq5Pnup-cBE

although look out for small gaps in trees
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pcZXZ9WzBc

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:25 pm
by gurutasker
Also, why are you not buying this? 8) 8) :lol: :lol:

http://www.everettaero.com/zh806.html

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:26 pm
by deaf_rattle
gurutasker wrote:Also, why are you not buying this? 8) 8) :lol: :lol:

http://www.everettaero.com/zh806.html


nice, that would be awesome, although you would need to have arnie hanging on for that authentic true lies experience

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:27 pm
by Mr Revhead
Yeah but that!!

Or the Jag! Then you can do Toyspeed joy flights!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:30 pm
by Mr Ree
Mr Revhead wrote:
Mr Ree wrote:I would be asking this question on a forum full of plane enthusiasts, as asking them on a car forum seems very strange to me.


Who doesn't like planes?! :?


Lol yeah Fridays....
Buy the damn thing! See you at Wanaka!


People who are scared of flying, I imagine? Me, personally, I love them :)

The point was there would be far better forums to get advice on the topic, from people who actually know about the plane, rather than asking here where 99% of users probably only know what the plane looks like after a quick google image search lol.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:30 pm
by deaf_rattle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG5VK8l9nfg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwKIJtQW ... ure=relmfu

all this talk about planes has made me think about rc aircraft again