YEt more conversion enquirees

[Rob]

Got the power 1300cc ee80

Was wondering if buying a busted up fxgt would solve the missing horses and provide all the parts needed?

I assume they would all bolt in.

Might not do this though cause the bricks almost going yet again

Cheers for input

[Mr Revhead]

or just buy an fxgt and drive that!
but in answer to your question, if you got an ae82 fxgt then yes it would have all parts needed. an ae92 would also be ok

[TRDWGN]

Given your chassis EE80, this means your car runs a E series motor, the AE82 runs a A series motor, to bolt in a 4AGE into your car you will need to change the engine mount on the drivers side inner guard, ie the one closest the cambelt, not a big job but you need to unstitch the old one, weld on the new one and given you are modifying the standard engine mounts originally fitted to your car you will need to get it certified, in short yes it can be done but why, just get a GT or at least a A series chassis as it is far less hassle and probably will work out cheaper in the long run!!

[strap-on]

dear suzy.........

[MrOizo]

dear suzy.........

do you work for NZPC?

[strap-on]

no.... but sometimes i wish i did.

"dear dan, i have an 88 sohc mazda, not the bestest of cars i know, but mum gave me an awesome deal on it, what i wanna know is, what can i do to get some real good gains out of this engine?, or is it worth getting a crashed gtx and transplanting, oh and can u tell me who will do this and how much it will cost.

"dear $&#$%, your car is poo, sell it now and get something fast"

[Rob]

If its gonna be all that hassle then I won't bother.........I mean when I say my brick is almost going again I mean my st185 brick.

I just need the looms.

But anyway if I did change that engine mount, No one would know anyway so theres is no need to cert

[badidas]

get the vacum cleaner out wash it give it a cut and polish new oil and filter put it in the t&e for $1000 and presto go buy a gt rolla
much better idea than spending mega $ to convert

[Mr Revhead]

not a big job but you need to unstitch the old one, weld on the new one

um what???
the inner guards are the same on 'e' and 'a' series engines.... the rubber mount is different, but thats a simple bolt on item... no welding needed!
and if you use all parts from an ae82 including brakes (if they are different
fronts could be the same) then no cert is needed cause you are just upgrading to factory spec.

basiclly if you can get a wrecked fxgt or similer for cheap enough, itll be a very easy job and worth doing.

[TRD Man]

and if you use all parts from an ae82 including brakes (if they are different
fronts could be the same) then no cert is needed cause you are just upgrading to factory spec.

Not true! If you change the cc rating of the car at all, it needs certification.
Even if you're going down in size.

[deaf_rattle]

trd man is right.
My engine conversion everything bolted up, but i still need to get a cert.
slightly different example, but same principal

[dohca]

trd man is right.
My engine conversion everything bolted up, but i still need to get a cert.
slightly different example, but same principal

even if you change your fueling or induction on your car you need a cert.

its bullshit

[Mr Revhead]

so when did the law change??
last time i looked if you changed a car to the same as a higher spec model (ie ee80 to ae82) and you could prove that you used factory parts to make it THE SAME as a factory model then cert was not needed. basiclly it has to be a total bolt in upgrade to the factory specs
if you changed to something the factory DIDNT do then you will need a cert.

[deaf_rattle]

so how do you prove that its factory stuff?
by getting a cert

[TRD Man]

I can relay a story that's at least 3 years old.

I knew a young bloke who had a KE70 Corolla sedan which had a 4AGE installed prior to the certification rules being introduced.
When the rules were introduced there as an amnesty for people with modified cars to have the modifications recorded and this owner did this correctly therefore avoiding the need to certify.
My guy bought the car sometime later & removed the 4AGE & replaced it with a 4K, which we all know was the original spec engine for the car.
He was refused a warrant of fitness because of the engine swap.
I took him to meet the guy that does my low volume certs and we pulled the rule book out.
Sure enough, even though this bloke was returning the car to it's 'factory spec' it needed to be cerified. Ridiculous but true.

[Mr Revhead]

thats an odd ball one....

the thing iv notice with certs etc there have been cases where one guy says 'no worries with that' and then another says 'no way'

like wofs, there is alot of confusion with ppl who should no the rules!

blame that on the ltsa who keep changing things, and who make sooo much of the law 'in the inspectors opinion'

anyway in this case itll still be an easy swap, and no problems getting a cert if its determined to need a cert.

[dohca]

im not sure what your trying to get at

factory means the car came out with it.

which this car did not another version of this car did.

therefore it is not factory.

anything that is changed requires a cert. aka fuel lines, power increase uhm heaps of crap

its total bollocks IMO

[Mr Revhead]

what i mean is basiclly you are changing a car from one spec, in this case ee80 shopping basket to ae82 fxgt or gt sedan spec.

toyota made cars with the same shells in both specs, therefore you are upgrading the lower spec to the higher spec, using all factory parts to change to the higher one. you are not modding anything in the structure of the vehicle.

note that you have to be able to prove that you used all factory parts.

but if theres any doubt go see the guy who will be doing the cert... its him you have to please... as i mentioned above, sooo much of the law is down to ppls opinion.

[Chickenman]

My suggestion is to download the pdf's from the low volume certifiers website www.lvvta.org.nz If you know the rules before you do anything then you can say: "$&#$% you dogg, my rides slammin, gotsta pimp on and she as custard as a mofo! Aint got no 'fication worries in da hood! Shit nigga, that shit is whack!"

[dohca]

my suggestion is you down load this


http://www.lvvta.org.nz/Engine&Drive-tr ... ions09.pdf

and read 4.3

aka it cannot be done without a cert. full stop