shocks botteming out!! help??

[phatman3801]

hey i have had jamex springs put into my levin bzg non s/s with standard shocks, and after they were put in my front was sitting on the bumpstops so i got the front bumpstops shortened as much as they could be but this hasnt achieved much at all as although the car is sitting off the bumpstops now i car hear it hit the bumpstops alll the time when going over bumps so, it makes a kinda banging noise and makes the ride realll unconfortable! how do u fix this problem of the shocks constantly hitting the bumpstops with out making the car higher???? as i like where it is sitting, its not extremly low it only went down 40mm. would shortening the shocks fix it??? or isnt some that cnt be fixed and have to rise the height to be fixed?? ne segesstions would be great thanx!

[Mr Revhead]

if its hitting the bumpstops then theres not much more you can do, its also possibly illegal with out a cert, cause dropping i tthat low may put it under the 100mm rule.

if the shocks are botteming out then you can either fit appropriate shocks, or possibly get your current ones shortened. first thing you should do is figure out exactly which is causing the problems. and soon cause a car the bottoms all the time is NOT SAFE

[Bazda]

my mate put superlow kings on his ae111 non ss.
only when u go over faily big bumps it would bottom out.
best thing u could do is shorten the shocks.

[wde_bdy]

best thing u could do is shorten the shocks.

Which technically will require certing.

Go hit up a suspension shop to see if they can find a shorter insert from another car that will fit. Also look up the LTSA website for the limits of lowering before a cert is required. Any modification to bumpstops needs certifying, along with a lot of other details which your current setup may be breaching.

Callum

[Bazda]

if u shorten the shocks whos gonna know??? no one, therefore why go get a cert.

[aesc]

if u shorten the shocks whos gonna know??? no one, therefore why go get a cert.

Exactly, good point.

[Mr Revhead]

if u shorten the shocks whos gonna know??? no one, therefore why go get a cert

which is exactly why they keep tigtening the rules.. cause ppl disreguard them
cert rules are there to ensure your vehicle is safe. and whos to say a wof guy isnt going to know? also if his cars that low its almost certainly going to be under the 100mm minimum so he'll get stickered when the cops catch him. then probably moan about unfair cops. even though the rules are clear!

[phatman3801]

my car isnt even that low tho! it only drop 40mm in the front so its not under the 100mm legal height...it sits about 120mm ish?? now that the bumpstops have been cut it sits off the bumpstops but if i go over light bumps it will hit the bumpstops, im guessing the shocks in this car arnt desgned to even let a 40mm drop happen with out it sitting on the bumpstops?? so will shorting the shocks enable them to work with out them hitting the bumpstops???

[Bazda]

forgot to say, the levin with king springs prob wont go under the 100mm.

My mate just recently put trd coilovers in his ae111 and was under 100mm and he got a cert. well they prob just think he can just wind these up and down so mehh

[wde_bdy]

if u shorten the shocks whos gonna know??? no one, therefore why go get a cert.

Well since he has already had to cut the bumpstop he will need a cert for that anyway. Don't forget any dodgy mods to your car invalidate your insurance, and insurance companies are always looking for a way not to pay you out. It's better that he knowingly takes the risk than just blindly following what everyone on here tells him to.

Callum

[TRDWGN]

Umm............Get new shocks

If they are bottoming out then they are obviously f#%ked

[VTEXTC]

Umm............Get new shocks

If they are bottoming out then they are obviously f#%ked

Ditto:)

Are they facroty shocks? Chances they are $&#$%, and with the stiffer springs they cant cope. Best thing is to do both at the same time. Saves $ in the long run!

[phatman3801]

well i highly doubt the shocks are $&#$% coz the cars only dne 65000km and when i took it to the suspention shop to get shorter bumpstops put in i asked the guy if my shocks were looking ok and he said yea they are all good! so getting the front shocks shortened will fix this problem?? how much do i need them to get shortened?

[Ae92typeX]

in theory, the amount the car has dropped from standard is what you would want to get them shortened by. This way the shocks will go back into the control position they were designed to be in. Also, you can get different size bump stops- I did that for my ae92.

[phatman3801]

o ok so id want the shocks shortened about 40mm then?? yea i have had shorter bumpstops put in the front this jst made it so it wasnt sitting on the bumpstops but when i go over bunps its always hitting them! well i think it is hitting them...is there ne way to be sure that it is??

[Mr Revhead]

so youv cut the bump stops after it was found to be sitting on them... now they hit the lowedered stops... are you SURE its not under 100mm?
iv got a levin myself..... i think youd be VERY close if not under 100mm..

[rollaholic]

like people are saying, you just need stiffer shocks (so they compress less over bumps) this is the downside to lowering your car, theres no way its ever going to be as comfy as the factory settings. its gonna be bumpy, and bouncy, but hey, it looks cool right...

[phatman3801]

its bout on 100mm jst above, they are jst jamex springs and it droped about 40mm, ok say i cnt aford stiffer shocks which i cnt lol will shortening the shocks eliminate this problem??

[Ae92typeX]

It will most probably still hit the bumpstops, but not bottom out the shock.so I guess in that way...no

[phatman3801]

well if there are bumpstops the shicks will never bottom out as the bumpstops prevent that, so r u saying shortening shocks will NOT let the shock travel more b4 it hits the bumpstops???