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Postby GT 20Valve » Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:52 pm

Hey i am looking at buying an oil pressure gauge off one of the guys who is a member opn this website, all i was wanting to know is on the basis that the guy is saying everything is there, how easy is it to hook up on a AE101 Levin is there any mucking around or any hidden costs?? Any technical advise would be much appreciated, but please if your only taking a stab at it then dont cause this guy wants an answer pretty quick! :P

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Postby JasonZE » Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:44 pm

Depends wether its an electrical or mechanical gauge.

Mechanical you take out the oil light switch and run a line to the inside of the car to the gauge then wire the light inside gauge to the dash lights

Electrical gauge you remove oil light switch fit the right sender for the gauge and run a wire inside to the gauge run a power feed and earth to the gauge and wire up th light.
If you want to keep the factory oil light as well you need to find the relavant "tee" piece to fit the light and gauge sender together

If mechanical try to get a copper feed line rather than the plastic one they usually come with.

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Postby GT 20Valve » Wed Aug 11, 2004 7:51 pm

well i suppose ill just buy it and c obvesily its not really a problem cus no1 seems to know much about?
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Postby Ae92typeX » Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:07 pm

There was a topic about them not so long ago, did ya do a search?
like above,
pretty easy to install & the copper line rates over the plastic one.
Buy a 't' piece so you can have the gauge and your pressure sensor in as well.
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Postby GT 20Valve » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:18 pm

Yeah i did and i sat there and read heaps of shit for like an hour and a half but it didnt quite get answer what my problem was, i will do another search tho!

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Postby Adydas » Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:55 pm

Mechanical you take out the oil light switch and run a line to the inside of the car


i THINK you will find This Is Against the law, Due to putting Hot Oil Into the car, Sort of defeats the purpose of the Firewall, if you put Hot oil into cabin..
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Postby pplmvr » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:02 pm

stop asking hard questions, try a easy one for a change ... plz... tks U..
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Postby Chickenman » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:23 pm

pplmvr wrote:stop asking hard questions, try a easy one for a change ... plz... tks U..


Look dude, If you want to post inane and irrelevant shit ALL the time and have nothing at all to contribute please go to NzHondas or something. We Know you got a lovely big van, we know you don't have an excellent grasp of the english language and I would also guess you don't know diddly about diddly?

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Postby pplmvr » Thu Aug 12, 2004 6:32 pm

what I hate about some ppl here is that they think they are god, they think they above everyone, they think if something they don't like to see they can just start abusing and change the way that others posts.

If you don't like it or don't understand it .. then DON'T $&#$% LOOK
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Postby Chickenman » Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:15 pm

pplmvr wrote:what I hate about some ppl here is that they think they are god, they think they above everyone, they think if something they don't like to see they can just start abusing and change the way that others posts.

If you don't like it or don't understand it .. then DON'T f**king LOOK


Understand this $&#$%. The tech questions section is for people with problems and questions, it's not your personal playground. Your obviously very arrogant... I'm sure you think you're right and that you can do no wrong but you're just an annoying idiot.

If you really have a problem with the people here thinking they are superior to you then stop being so obvious about your inferiority and oblivious to your inadequacies.

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Postby fangsport » Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:46 pm

GT 20valve, sorry for the off topic but some people have certain attributes that don't need airing.

the safest way to run a any gauge is to run a flexible braided hose from the engine block to a tee- piece mounted on the firewall/bulkhead. the reason for this is rigid lines can easily rupture and deliver all your oil onto the ground. screwed into the tee-piece is your standard oil sender unit and the sender unit to your new gauge, and if it is mechanical i would thoroughly recommend using the same flexible braid running to your gauge.
as for legality, why are you then allowed to run really heavy cable to your amps/stereos etc if it would defeat the purpose of a firewall?
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Postby JasonZE » Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:58 pm

I have never heard of any legal issues with gauge lines, and even when they leak its a tiny amount as the line has such a small bore size. So your hardly going to burn alive :lol:
However most modern gauges are electric

Its a bit hard to give you more info when you dont answer the question i asked at the start about what type of gauge it is and then you reply that no-one seems to know anything about it :roll:
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Postby pplmvr » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:09 pm

Obviously some people still think everyone loves their post, and they still think that they can change the way people post, keep thinking that way, you will be fine.

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Postby Adydas » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:45 pm

why are you then allowed to run really heavy cable to your amps/stereos etc if it would defeat the purpose of a firewall?


Errm PERHAPS its cos IF that leaks it just shorts and blows a fuse.. Hardly unsafe Where as HOT oil spurting all over the inside of your car and burning your face when your doing 100 on motorway.. well Do i even need to say more?
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Postby fangsport » Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:52 pm

and if you use flexible braided line and tighten the threaded fittings, it's gonna squirt hot oil how???????
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Postby Adydas » Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:10 am

number one APPARANLTY im wrong.. i forget who i heard it from..
Ill answer your question anyway..

Your asking how something SAFELY tightend like that could not leak Ever heard the saying SHIT HAPPENS?

let me put it how you understand it.. a car with 4 or 5 wheel nuts on a car.. holding wheel on.. thats safe and wont come off right? you agree? well how come its happend?

IF it exsits as a rule its there based on WORST CASE SENARIO.. its for your saftey dick head.. INCASE the worst happens..
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Postby matt dunn » Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:22 am

Adydas wrote:
why are you then allowed to run really heavy cable to your amps/stereos etc if it would defeat the purpose of a firewall?


Errm PERHAPS its cos IF that leaks it just shorts and blows a fuse.. Hardly unsafe Where as HOT oil spurting all over the inside of your car and burning your face when your doing 100 on motorway.. well Do i even need to say more?


Probably not the best thing to happen but it is still 100% legal to do.
We fit them all the time but i would not sell or recommend a mechanical gauge for that reason. Mechanical are cheaper but cost more to fit and are a pain in the arse because the cheap arse ones that people buy at repco or similar and then bring in to be fitted have crappy lines and leak at the joins. And if you try to tell them that they've paid $xx for the gauge and you want to sell them new lines for another $xx they think your trying to rip them off.

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Postby fangsport » Fri Aug 13, 2004 12:23 am

take a chill pill and have a goods nights sleep, bud. no need to get obnoxious.

the only mechanical senders/gauges i have seen fail have been due to vibrations in the metal lines causing fractures and and over-tightened brass unions breaking, NEITHER of which would occur with flexible lines with their appropriate connectors .
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Postby Ae92typeX » Fri Aug 13, 2004 10:42 am

Also when running a mechanical gauge with for example copper line, put afew loops in the line, like a spring, in the engine bay- this can help relieve any stress from engine movement. Using a rubber grommit is a MUST through the firewall. This prevents any metal to metal contact & ultimatly a broken line. Just make sure you have no real sharp turns, kinks or areas where the line is stretched to its max & you'll be fine.
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Postby JasonZE » Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:41 pm

AE92typeX is right on the button if fitted correctly there will be no problems.
Same with stereo cables run a cable through a rubber grommet and its fine but i have seen heaps of cars through the workshop with the cable run throug the guard and door shut with no FUSE :x

Its all a bit off topic now but his first question was about installing a guage which he didnt say what type it was and i gave him both scenarios and never said mechanical was good but they are still common.
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