High Revving :D

[Adamal]

N/A engines have a more direct response to your right foot than turbo engines.
The smooth power increase when you get into an N/A's power band is just such a good feeling

[Sanxta]

Just because you are dumbasses that were dropped on your heads at birth, doesnt mean you have to blame your stupidity on me.

You are the idiots that bought the 20vs not me.

Oh cheers

Well maybe we like an engine that's reliable and better than a normal 1600cc without it becoming our life.

Is that a crime?

N/A engines have a more direct response to your right foot than turbo engines.
The smooth power increase when you get into an N/A's power band is just such a good feeling

Definatley - that's why I would rather have a V8 than a turbo coz it's powerfull with no lag! Too bad you can't really rev them that high . . .

[Adamal]

You kidding me man? Properly tuned V8's can get up around the 8k RPM redline mark!

[92GTApex]

1UZ, cams, throttle bodies, aftermarket ecu, head work...
Now that would rev...

Logan

[IH8TEC]

You kidding me man? Properly tuned V8's can get up around the 8k RPM redline mark!

my dads mate in auckland has a v8 mustang super sallon car, (i think thats his class) and he revs that to 11,000rpm every race for a season, then rebuilds in the off season. makes a f load of power too.

[FLAWLES]

You kidding me man? Properly tuned V8's can get up around the 8k RPM redline mark!

wtf

a well bulit v8 can easily reach that i think that is a contradicktion of terms there buddy
a well bulit cam train and bottom end in any v8 would do this but y? v8 u dont need to rape a v8 to make power they have torque
oh and do u watch the v8 supercars watch there rev counters


GO THE FORDS THIS SUNDAY

[FLAWLES]

ANY WAY each to there own hell i am planing to NOS out my 4agze and im still running " playing around " with the factory s/c


each to there own!!!!!

[Sanxta]

GO THE FORDS THIS SUNDAY

Nah mate . . .


HOLDEN!!!

[deaf_rattle]

yep i agree with sanxta

go the mighty holdens

[Mr Revhead]

Nah mate . . .


HOLDEN!!!

your prices just went up.

FORD WILL OWN HOLDEN THIS YEAR

[Lloyd]

lol, good to see this hasn't gone off topic or anything

Hopefully Murph will have a good run this year, thats who I'm hoping to see up there. Lets all hope Ambrose gets stuck in some kitty litter somewhere Should be a good race this year

[Sanxta]

yeah - whatever the result . . . i can't wait!

[anthonym]

N/A engines have a more direct response to your right foot than turbo engines.
The smooth power increase when you get into an N/A's power band is just such a good feeling

Sigh why is it that we get the same crap regurgiitated time and time again on here? For the same displacement turbo engines are as responsive if not more responsive than NA, and have crushingly superior torque. An NA needs at least 50% greater displacement to keep up. Even my 450hp 3SGTE is as responsive and progressive in it's power delivery as any NA I've driven, and the list is long and distinguished.

I also agree with FLAWLES, what is the point of spending a pile of cash on a NA 1.6 when with the same pile of cash you could get double the power and better driveablity with a turbo.

[Mr Revhead]

um, maybe cause thats what he wants to do? not all ppl want a turbo.

but yeah cant really say n/a is more responsive than turbo... unless youv got a monster turbo and running piss all compression and/or advance then no reason why throttle response cant be as good

[TRDWGN]

Horses for courses!! For a daily driver/fun car i would go NA anyday, I have had many turbo cars and the torque is uncomparable to a NA, however the reason i would choose an NA over a turbo these days is simply because I find it easier to drive within the law in a little NA then a turbo, my old SW20 was a nightmare to drive around town on/under the speed limit where as my 6spd carib is the complete opposite, i get the absolute enjoyment of driving a responsive little car that you have to pull through the gears without fear of losing your licence every two minutes!!

Reality is it depends on what you want, try and commute around AK in a finely tuned eight that rev's to 8k having said that put a standard corolla GLX around Puke, horses for courses and accepting compromises!

[Snoozin]

I recently test drove a fairly well warmed-up 16V 4AGE in a road car that I was looking at buying.... I found it quite nasty on the road to be honest, it was a slug in the low rev range, but good fun when you got to 5,500rpm, all hell broke loose and off she went. Hehe.

Not my idea of fun at all reallty, but then again, if it were on a circuit then I imagine it would be slightly more palatable. I like cars that produce good torque low down..... also yeah there is a major misinterpretation that turbo cars don't produce low down power.... the days of laggy old Cordia's and TX3's are long gone.

I'd be inclined to go with the turbo side of things as well, rather than building a 12:1 CR 1600. It should also be far more reliable, unless of course you wind the boost up to crazy levels. I also reckon that a hi-po NA engine is a lot more compromised than the same engine turbocharged - the turbo is likely to keep that low end torque, while still giving you that holyfuckwejustgotintothepowerbandofthisbaby feeling of an NA (or better ) when you're boosting.

Personal preference though eh!

[anthonym]

um, maybe cause thats what he wants to do? not all ppl want a turbo.

Yep fair enough .

[FLAWLES]

N/A engines have a more direct response to your right foot than turbo engines.
The smooth power increase when you get into an N/A's power band is just such a good feeling

Sigh why is it that we get the same crap regurgiitated time and time again on here? For the same displacement turbo engines are as responsive if not more responsive than NA, and have crushingly superior torque. An NA needs at least 50% greater displacement to keep up. Even my 450hp 3SGTE is as responsive and progressive in it's power delivery as any NA I've driven, and the list is long and distinguished.

I also agree with FLAWLES, what is the point of spending a pile of cash on a NA 1.6 when with the same pile of cash you could get double the power and better driveablity with a turbo.

i said that???
ha cool

wot i was trying to get at is people have diff tastes and diff needs me im not going turbo y its because i dont see the point i want to use the car for small motorsport events and i want to try and prove people wrong buy getting heaps of power out of my gtz 4agze sc12 i could go turbo but y follow the same track az every one else

but like i said before each to there own hell look at 10k 20v he as got wicked power out of his 20v er i could prop granonte that people are pulling the piss out of him and saying go turbo or vtec but has he..............no
do wot u want man

GO FORDS