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Postby GTCRSHR » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:09 pm

hey everyone ... a little wierd one but ill try explain

If a AE101 FXGT was to have flares oni it .... the wheels would if im right in thinking be ssticking inside them by say a inch or more maybe 2 which is gonna make it look well silly i(if im thikning right)

so what im wanting to know is how do people over come this .... cause i have seen supras with wide body kit (after market ) and mr2's etc ....

and they dont have this problem ...

so how do people get there mags to "stick out" further do they have to have there axle changed ... or is there something you can use to make ure mags stick out further ....

BUT i realise if there is such a thing .. its gonna put extra strenght on the axle ...

hope fuill i have explained my self ...

but yeah if you need any more explanation dont hessitate to help :D
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Postby pervert » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:24 pm

Spacers would work, but they are illegal.
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Postby CozmoNz » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:27 pm

deepdish mags with the correct offset :)
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Postby Adamal » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:30 pm

I believe you can get spacers that are legal, they had a set in NZPC parts section and specifically mentioned that you could legally use those ones.
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Postby malc » Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:37 pm

CozmoNz wrote:deepdish mags with the correct offset :)


what he said,
or just get wider wheels,
with 3 piece wheels you can specify what the offset will be.
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Postby wde_bdy » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:03 pm

Talk to a certifier, its the only way you can do it legally.

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Postby TRDWGN » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:19 pm

Not all spacers are illegal... the hollow cast ones are definitely but i believe the machined solid jobbies that bolt up to original hub and also provide a second set of studs (to bolt wheel up to) are certifiable
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Postby GTCRSHR » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:33 pm

hey thanks for that ...

i was wanting to get some VAULT-1's so there not really wide mags...

so maybe ill have to have a word with a certifier maybe ...

where would i get spacers from ....

and whats the legal limit to stretch out by
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Postby GTCRSHR » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:34 pm

with 3 piece wheels you can specify what the offset will be.

have you got any examplese ????
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Postby wde_bdy » Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:53 pm

There are no legal limits as such, there is simply a threshold over which it has to be certified. From that point on it is totally dependent on the type of car and what the certifier deems is safe. In your case, before requiring certification you can increase the track by 25mm (this is the measurement from the centre of one wheel to the other). You can also use wider wheels than factory, but the limit will be how much width the car will cope with inwards.
Some example numbers, say your factory offset is +40, you can move to +28 wheels to push the tyres 12mm further out. You could also go say two inches (50mm) wider, which will sit your wheels another 25mm outwards. The limiting factor will be the space you have inwards, if you went 4 inches (100mm) wider, you are likely to have the wheels rubbing all over the place. Once they start rubbing they are not legal.
Realistically to properly fill the wide body kit you will need spacers, deep-dish wheels and certification. You may have big issues getting it certified without major work on the suspension to cope with the extra load placed on it.
You have to ask yourself, is it really worth it? If its just for looks why bother, if its for better handling you may not get the results you are expecting.

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Postby CozmoNz » Wed Jan 19, 2005 1:01 am

Be a real man and did what i did

also ignorance is truely bliss, now i saw that i had balls of steel... if i knew what i was driving one.

washer's... thats right... i had 2mm washers between my mag's and my brake calipers, thats 2mm...

these wheel nuts had to be done up to the same torque... if one was tighter than another, you could compress the washer and cause a scraching sound...

man... that was sooo illegal and wrong.


but hey, i sold the car, then it got stolen, then another chap brought it or something, so its still got the same wheels...

havnt seen it around lately, maybe it crashed due to my wicked washer/s setup ^_^.
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Postby GTCRSHR » Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:52 am

purple_beasty wrote:There are no legal limits as such, there is simply a threshold over which it has to be certified. From that point on it is totally dependent on the type of car and what the certifier deems is safe. In your case, before requiring certification you can increase the track by 25mm (this is the measurement from the centre of one wheel to the other). You can also use wider wheels than factory, but the limit will be how much width the car will cope with inwards.
Some example numbers, say your factory offset is +40, you can move to +28 wheels to push the tyres 12mm further out. You could also go say two inches (50mm) wider, which will sit your wheels another 25mm outwards. The limiting factor will be the space you have inwards, if you went 4 inches (100mm) wider, you are likely to have the wheels rubbing all over the place. Once they start rubbing they are not legal.
Realistically to properly fill the wide body kit you will need spacers, deep-dish wheels and certification. You may have big issues getting it certified without major work on the suspension to cope with the extra load placed on it.
You have to ask yourself, is it really worth it? If its just for looks why bother, if its for better handling you may not get the results you are expecting.

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Cheers for that really imformative!

so what sort of "uprgrading" should i be looking at

the way to go would be to have a new axle or it lengthened etc yah ?

but thats gonna start getting $$$$ costly
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Postby wde_bdy » Wed Jan 19, 2005 10:16 am

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It can be done but it is not at all cheap, I would talk to a certifier as they are the ONLY ones who can give give all the answers. Personally I wouldn't bother for a normal road car.

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