Supra vs. RX7

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Twin Turbo RX7 or Supra?

Mazda RX7
32
47%
Toyota Supra
36
53%
 
Total votes : 68

Postby Twolitre » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:02 am

Don't get me wrong I'm not having a go at you, it just seems to me your intentions were a little unclear, there are a lot more worse shit stirrers on these forums than you which is why I enjoy the nzmmc forums so much, (finally back up)
And perhaps bias is not the correct term but you are looking for oppurtunities to talk up and defend the rx7 which shows your preference imho and unfortunately you have to accept peoples points of view sometimes no matter how much you may disagree with them especially in a poll such as this where you're asking for peoples opinions.
As with most things in life both these cars have their strengths and weeknesses.
Have you tried posting the same poll on a mazda forum?
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Postby evltoy » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:25 am

Hey who really cares about what cars better.

Cars should be appreciated in the same manner as woman. Try get into as many as possible and once you do, drive them hard and fast.
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Postby FLAWLES » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:34 pm

Mmm, Boost wrote:.



Sure, rotaries can be unreliable, but so can any high performance engine that isnt maintained and thrashed.

I dont hold the rotary as the be all and end all, but I can respect the fact they make great power from such a compact unit.


Sooooooo true
one of the best comments i have read on this post so far
most high preformance engines have to be pulled down at some stage

and has for that comment about making great power, i respect the rotary engine and treat it with the up most repect along with the v-tec engines
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Postby FLAWLES » Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:38 pm

Lith wrote:
FLAWLES wrote:i dont knw of any 1200hp supras in NZ nor do i no of any above 600hp rotangs " street legal " in NZ

but az for drag racing im dam sure the supra was the first full chassis car " import " to break into the 7s or 8s

please feel free to correct me

but :roll: once again i will say each to there own :wink:


There are 600hp+ street driven rotaries in NZ... DEFINATELY registered.

If I remember rightly, FOURRE is street registered and warrented and has had a new exhaust made up to not be so insanely loud - thats over 600hp NA ;)


crap i forgot about that car........man that thing sounds like a indy car at full revs...........arrrr the memorys and the hering loss
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Postby Lith » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:05 pm

Twolitre wrote:Have you tried posting the same poll on a mazda forum?


I didn't want to see the Supra shat on... I expected a fairer trial on here and got pretty much the reaction I expected :) Good to see the result comes out pretty even.
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Postby andrew » Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:47 am

Grease monky wrote:How many do you see for sale with rebuilt engine at xxxx ammount of Km's.


I like the RX7 for its low weight, good weight distrbution and the shape, but the rotary puts me off completely. I don't have much experience with rotaries but as Grease monky pointed out the number you see for sale with rebuilt engines at ~100,000kms is disconcerting to say the least. I don't think they sound very good either. And then there is the fuel economy.

An RX7 with a piston engine would be good, but that would upset the weight distribution and I'm sure you'd have trouble fitting one under the bonnet.

Ebola_One wrote:And you're saying that a 3l twin turbo 6 pulling at least 500kg more would have good fuel economy?


I think you're exagerating a bit there. IIRC an RZ Supra weighs around 1550KG. So 250KGs more maybe.

Lith wrote:A 300rwkw RX7 should be able to show a 300rwkw Supra its tail lights,


Maybe, maybe not. As I'm sure you know theres more to it than just power - a 300kw 2JZ-GTE is going to be making a lot more torque than a 300KW 13B. Or were you meaning around a race track.

Tough decision though.

I wouldn't call a Supra practical; its big with no cabin space(no leg room in the front and one of the smallest back seats I've ever seen) and a nearly useless boot. I don't see the point really. In fact I'd say its less practical than a SW20 in a lot of ways.

In the end I'd have to take the Supra and spend lots of money putting it on a diet :D
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Postby V8MOFO » Thu Jan 27, 2005 3:54 pm

OMG THE SUPRA CAUGHT UP!
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Postby CozmoNz » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:14 pm

evltoy wrote:Cars should be appreciated in the same manner as woman. Try get into as many as possible and once you do, drive them hard and fast.


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Postby Lith » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:20 pm

andrew wrote:Maybe, maybe not. As I'm sure you know theres more to it than just power - a 300kw 2JZ-GTE is going to be making a lot more torque than a 300KW 13B. Or were you meaning around a race track.


I was wondering if someone was going to bring that up :) It'd be interesting to see, I wouldn't want to make a call on that.

I'd SAY that the torque/weight of the two will be similar... given the RX7 has a 16-17% weight advantage on the Supra - which is very close to the torque difference. RX7 won't pull from low revs as happily as the supra though.
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Postby Nathan Young » Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:26 pm

andrew whats up with no room in the supra?
if i put my seat as far back as it goes i can
hardly reach the peddles :o
you got the back seat bit correct if seat all
the way back its touching the back seat.
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Postby andrew » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:42 pm

Nathan Young wrote:andrew whats up with no room in the supra?
if i put my seat as far back as it goes i can
hardly reach the peddles :o
you got the back seat bit correct if seat all
the way back its touching the back seat.


Hmm, are you very tall? I've sat in several Supras and all have been the same. While I could drive one it would not be very confortable, and considering how big the car is...

I'm about 194cm (6'4 1/2") btw.

I think it would have been better to exclude the back seat and therefore have more room for the front seats. But then I spose its a lot harder to sell a 2 seater sports cars than a 2+2.
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Postby Nathan Young » Mon Jan 31, 2005 5:16 pm

im about 182cm i think.
is that about 6' i dont know?
but yeah ive never had a problem
with room in the front of my supra.
the most people ive had in it is 3
guy in back seat sat across back
seat :P
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Postby KrayzieAW » Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:02 pm

personally id take the supra... its jus my preference...
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Postby 1LOWDX » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:09 pm

Yes i'd have an RX-7 over a supra anyday :D
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Postby Simon K » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:17 pm

Nathan Young wrote:im about 182cm i think.
is that about 6' i dont know?
but yeah ive never had a problem
with room in the front of my supra.
the most people ive had in it is 3
guy in back seat sat across back
seat :P


I've managed to drive one thru welly with 4 passengers. Sure it was only a short drive and they were drunk...maybe that numbed the pain? :wink:
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