can I re-use TOYOTA torque to yeild head bolts

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can I re-use TOYOTA torque to yeild head bolts

Postby ChaosAD » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:14 pm

I have decided to change the gasket on my rebuilt as the gasket I fitted to it gives too much compression.
. However it has already been torqued to spec but the engine has never been run.

Can I reuse the bolts (which are new genuine ones) or do I need to replace them?
Kind of confusing cos when you do the valve clearance checks the gaskets supposed torqued down
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:59 pm

yes u can reuse them if they are still within spec
if you havnt got the specs email me on monday and ill fax the page from the manual
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Postby Twolitre » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:07 am

I re-used some original head bolts on my 4age which was stock and never had a problem, however in a boosted application I probably wouldn't reccomend it.
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Postby ChaosAD » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:20 am

Thanks. By 'within specs' do you mean the length of the bolt?
And if they are within specs, do I do the normal torque + 90deg + 90deg?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:25 am

yup its length.

yes if they are within spec you use them as normal.
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Postby [V8ROLA] » Sat Feb 05, 2005 1:45 pm

you should never re-use torque to yield haed bolts, once there stretched they will NOT torque to the correct settings. specially in a boosted setup i wouldn't even consider it :S:S
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Postby TrouserFxGt » Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:35 pm

[V8ROLA] wrote:you should never re-use torque to yield haed bolts, once there stretched they will NOT torque to the correct settings. specially in a boosted setup i wouldn't even consider it :S:S


wouldn't use them again either. They WILL NOT reach the same even torque as they will when new. This will cause uneven clamping pressure across your head and if it's too far out you will spit the headgasket.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:56 pm

yes, and no.
if they are still within spec its ok.

as listed in the toyota 4age manual
exhaust side bolts should be 90mm and inlet side 108mm
thats an EXACT measurement.
for headbolts id go with that. for rod bolts id replace them with ARP ones, they are cheap enough.
of course it will depend on the applictaion... if youv just spent mega $$ on ya race engine then every little bit of insurance is worth it!
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Postby atmosports » Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:40 pm

I've never & probably will never re-use it's not like they are mega $$$ for new ones compared to the cost of a failure. I'm even of the same opinion with ARP head bolts/studs in some engines, cheaper to replace them even if they measure ok, still keep an old set round for dummy assembly though. Most OEM head studs/bolts & main/big end bolts/studs/nuts are generally of the use once type so even if they measure alright shouldn't be used again. On a side note I have seen even brand new never used before ARP head studs/bolts fail when installed correctly, race motor for sure but still ony 10:1 compression.
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Postby ChaosAD » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:03 pm

Ive had so much greif with leaky head gaskets (do not use a copper head gasket without 'oringing' the head or block even if your told its unneccesary) and this engine in general.

I think I might get some new bolts just for piece of mind.
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Postby [V8ROLA] » Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:32 pm

who told you you dont have to O-ring a block for copper gaskets!!!

you should ALWAYS o-ring a block when doing that.
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Postby crispy'86 » Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:07 pm

Warwick can you send me that page on head bolts too?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:46 pm

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