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by **alastabesta** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 8:33 pm

except spacers are illegal...

by **Dr-X** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:04 pm

I'm looking for some new (well, 2nd hand) mags for my car. My car is FWD (duh) 5x100, dunno the factory offset off the top of my head.

Will these fit my car, anyone? Also, I notice Subaru's are also 5x100. Will Subaru mags fit?

by **z|gen** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:18 pm

if its the correct stud pattern, spacers can usually help out with correcting the offset.

by **Adamal** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:48 pm

alastabesta wrote:except spacers are illegal...

Well, 'spacers' are illegal if all you've done is chuck a few washers on your standard bolts.
You can, however, buy proper spacers which bolt on and have another set of full length bolts.

MY KE70'S · by **pervert** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:54 pm

Adamal wrote:
alastabesta wrote:except spacers are illegal...

Well, 'spacers' are illegal if all you've done is chuck a few washers on your standard bolts.
You can, however, buy proper spacers which bolt on and have another set of full length bolts.

Which still require a cert, this law came into effect within the last two years. Any spacers at all, whether they be bolt on or not, require a low volume cert.

by **GT4 20** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:10 pm

The problem with spacers is that the effectively 'shorten' the length of the studs - thereby decreasing the amount of thread available for the nut to tighten onto. If you do go down this route, the sensible option would be to fit longer studs.
Gary

by **Dr-X** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:46 pm

OK, these mags have an offset of 46. I think my car is desgined for offset of 38ish. This means spacers are no good, coz the wheels will already be poking out too far, correct? The problems being that my current 17" mags are already pretty close to the guards, and it wouldnt take much movement in either direction to cause problems...

Any educated guesses as to whether these would fit?

edit: Also, aren't Diamante's 5x114.3? I find it odd that these mags are 5x100.

by **Dr-X** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 11:27 pm

Bugger, he was advertising the wrong PCD, they are 5x114.3.

by **Dr-X** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:49 am

So anyone know how well subaru mags will fit a toyota? What are subaru mags offset?

by **fuel** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:53 am

DR-X, the less the value of the number, the MORE they stick out.

RWD offset cars have an offset of around +20~35. FWD and 4WD cars generally are between +38 and +50.

I thought that Subaru were around +50 offset.

by **fuel** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:56 am

Uterus, 38 offset wheels on a car designed for 48 offset do not require a spacer, as they stick out further than usual.

You would need spacers if you were trying to put FWD offset wheels (ie +38~50) on a RWD car which is designed for +20~35, to clear the calipers and suspension as they will be sticking 'in' too far.

by **fuel** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:58 am

What the f*ck is happening with the post order? I posted a reply after Uterus, and it appeared BEFORE his post?

by JT » Tue Feb 15, 2005 8:06 am

Dr-X wrote:OK, these mags have an offset of 46. I think my car is desgined for offset of 38ish. This means spacers are no good, coz the wheels will already be poking out too far, correct?

Wrong, the offset is the distance from the centre of the wheel to the mounting surface. A larger offset than factory means the wheel will sit inside the guard. But then it depends what width rim and tires came on it from factory and what you plan to install.

For comparison sake, you plan on getting rims 1" wider. If the rim is the same offset as standard you will have an extra 12.7mm of wheel either side. So you could get away with having an offset of 12 more and the outer rim will be in the same place but the inner rim will be 1" closer to the strut.

UTERUS, putting 38 wheels on a car designed for 48 will make them stick out alot more. Spacers wont be of any use.

by **UTERUS** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:42 am

Subaru 5 stud wheels are about +48 offset, Toyota 5X100 wheels are +38.

So with bolt on spacers Subaru wheels can be put on celica's, coronas......

This is a bolt on spacer on my ute. I have FWD offset rims on it.

by **TWSTD** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:52 am

UTERUS wrote:Subaru 5 stud wheels are about +38 offset, Toyota 5X100 wheels are +48.

Wrong way round... Subarus run +48-50P and toyota 5X100 run 38-42P. Ive just put 18x7.5 42P wheels on the caldina.

by **DRFTIN** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:05 pm

yeah we tried a few sets of subaru mags on mums old GT-T and they all hit the strut because the offset was wrong

Caldina GT-T · by **snwtoy** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 6:15 pm

TWSTD wrote:Wrong way round... Subarus run +48-50P and toyota 5X100 run 38-42P. Ive just put 18x7.5 42P wheels on the caldina.

PICS@!#$%@#%#$%

by **TWSTD** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 9:11 pm

hahaha patience my little smurfs :-)

(they are at the painters getting colour-coded)

They are from the range that we will be doing exclusively here in New Zealand - although maybe i wont import any of that model so i can have the only set LOL

by **THA SHZ** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:31 pm

TWSTD wrote:hahaha patience my little smurfs

(they are at the painters getting colour-coded)

They are from the range that we will be doing exclusively here in New Zealand - although maybe i wont import any of that model so i can have the only set LOL

ooh let me know wen u get them in al and i may be eble to onsell them for u if u like

by **TWSTD** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:23 am

Yeah - actually i will come out n see you at some stage soon with some images and get your opinion as to what will sell... also need a wheel alignment ;-)

ill bring ya beers this time!

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