questions for AE85/6 4agze owners

[AE85.6]

hopefully one of the guys/girls that has done this already can shed some light on it for me,

My AE currently has a 4age in it, so im just trying to think of what i actually need to do the swap,

I thought i can steal any rwd bits i need from my existing engine,
so if i get a engine and computer what else would i need ?

do the two engines run different looms or can i just swap the computers ?

also if i was mating it up to a T50 would i have to use the 4age flywheel and clutch cause the gtz one is too big ?

cheers

[l1ttle_d3vil]

Quintin @ http://au.geocities.com/quibel_nz/Info_01.htm

The flywheel and clutches of all the 4ag range are interchangeable as a unit. In my case the largest size fly to fit inside the T50 box is the 212mm (8-3/8") AE101 (20v) flywheel. Thats ok with me as when I bought my 20V motor I made sure I got the 20V flywheel with it. I am using the AE86 clutch and presure plate on this flywheel
If you have removed the flywheel for some reason the correct torque setting for the 8 bolts when doing it back up is 51-58 ft/lb (700-800 kg/cm) and for the clutch to the flywheel the 6 bolts should be torqued up to about 20-25 ft/lb.

[AE85.6]

oh ok cool so i can use AE86 clutch and pressure plate with the gtz flywheel ?

[Rick]

oh ok cool so i can use AE86 clutch and pressure plate with the gtz flywheel ?

The 224 mm 4AGZE clutch and flywheel will not fit inside the T-50 bell housing, and the 224 mm clutch plate has a larger diameter spline than the T-50 input shaft

[fangsport]

oh ok cool so i can use AE86 clutch and pressure plate with the gtz flywheel ?

The 224 mm 4AGZE clutch and flywheel will not fit inside the T-50 bell housing, and the 224 mm clutch plate has a larger diameter spline than the T-50 input shaft

..and a T-50 won't last very long if it is turbo/supercharged. see if you can find W- series box.

[Rick]

..and a T-50 won't last very long if it is turbo/supercharged. see if you can find W- series box.

The W series would be great but those custom bellhousings for them are not cheap

[Zak]

..and a T-50 won't last very long if it is turbo/supercharged. see if you can find W- series box.

The W series would be great but those custom bellhousings for them are not cheap

Neither are the T50 bell housings though.

[AE85.6]

ye i know a w series would be good but i have 2 t-50s so i want to use them first, possibly a w series after that and when more power would come into it.

ah ye i didnt rear that post correctly the first time, ok so i should source a 20v fly wheel for it then and use a heavier AE86 clutch and pressure plate, i dont want to go too silly with heavy duty bits as id rather a little slip than absolute grip with gearbox destruction

[Mr Revhead]

sell the t50s to pay for the w5#... otherwise youll kil 2 t50s and still have to pay for a w5# set up....2 t50s and a bellhousing will pay for the swap!

the looms and ecu are completly different. you cant interchange

[suberimakuri]

I agree with Revhead, sell the two t50s with A bellhousings and should cover swap to W.
Then you can run the big clutch and not have to worry about slip.

You've already got it all there.

[AE85.6]

hmm i see,

what were nite parts housings for this worth wasnt it like $700 or something Karl ? i dont know much about the different W series box's either dont they come with different position shifters too ? and the w55 57 or 58 ? are they just different ratios ?

[suberimakuri]

$749 RRP for nite parts bellhousing. - brendan@niteparts.co.nz

Yeah, the different numbers are for different ratios, however, it's really all about getting the right shifter for the car, and a better condition box is better then one that has slightly different ratios for most ppl IMHO.

so, try for mid shifter or, mid-rear (commonly called rear) shifter.

[AE85.6]

ah i see, is that just so it will come thru the floor in a suitable spot ? and what is the deal with the numbers the higher the number the bigger the ratio or ? e.g W55 smaller ratio than W58 ? also anyone have a ruff idea what sorta cash one of these boxs have been going for lately ?

[evil_si]

i picked up a mint w55 for $200 and im running that behind a turbo ze in a ke30,
i had but sold a T50, with 4a bellhousing, g/box mount, driveshaft etc for around $700 on trademe , pretty much paid for the w series conversion,

the looms are different, so you cant just plug the ecu,

depending on what 4age loom and what 4agze ecu you have, if you found the corrrect pinouts for that loom and ecu, change the pin locations to suit the ecu,
sounds confusing, it is.

[JamesM]

yea you will find a good one for about 250.
ratios for the boxes:
(reverse, 1,2,3,4,5)
T50 -3.484 3.587 2.022 1.384 1 0.861
W55 -4.091 3.566 2.056 1.384 1 0.850
W57 -3.768 3.285 1.894 1.275 1 0.861
W58 -3.768 3.285 1.894 1.275 1 0.783

so if u want simliar gearing to ur t50 then use w55.
the 58 will give u that extra length on 5th

[AE85.6]

ah i see, hmm could be the way to go