Ke70 / AE86 similarities

Volodkovich · Post by **Volodkovich** » Thu May 19, 2005 6:42 pm

Hi everyone,

What do you think the weight distribution of a Ke70 sedan would be like compared to an AE86?
Am i right in saying the floorpan of the two cars are the same? I mean, practically all of the mehcanicals are interchangable, are there any practical differences between the two cars apart from the obvious such as weight / looks.

Cheers, Rob

Xylotrope · Post by **Xylotrope** » Fri May 20, 2005 5:51 pm

Hey

Ke70 is leaf sprung and shocks rear ..

AE86/85 is coil springs an shocks ..

Having owned both and used both on seal and gravel ...

IMHO ... they are pretty similar ... GREAT !

The natural balance and steering that works well makes them very forgiving .. as long as they still have suspension and are not butchered

sold my DX wagon 2 days ago ..

still have my AE85 to 86 puzzle ..

z|gen · Post by **z|gen** » Fri May 20, 2005 6:36 pm

ke70 sedan runs a 4link just like the ae86

Xylotrope · Post by **Xylotrope** » Sat May 21, 2005 8:43 am

z|gen wrote:ke70 sedan runs a 4link just like the ae86

really !! .. my mistake ...

I havnt been involved with any sedans .. way too nana for me :lol:

I never knew .. how strange that they are different on the same model ??

The toyota god must have been drunk that day !

:wink:

THA SHZ · Post by **THA SHZ** » Sat May 21, 2005 8:57 am

Yes dx sedans and ae86 are exactly the same floor pan u will even find that wen u put in a 4age and a w55 box that the gearbox mount on the w55 or t50 will bolt straight up no mods , so in answer to ur question yes they are both the same weight distribution etc and everything can be the same if u use ae85 / 86 parts

RS13 · Post by **RS13** » Sat May 21, 2005 12:16 pm

I think Xylotrope got confused with the leaf rear end, as KE70/71/72 wagons (up to 1984 at least) had leaf rear end, while the KE70 sedans, coupes and liftbacks all had a 4-link rear with coil over shock.

They haven't got the same weight distribution, I can't recall the website, but from memory the TE71 sedans (closest thing to a 4AGE rwd Corolla sedan) had a weight bias toward the front, whereas the AE86's were more neutral. I have a drift video or two of a couple drifting, they definitely appear to be a handful on the limit! Obviously setting one up for drift would take a lot of fine tuning, IMO.

But who cares what it handles like, if it looks like that..

z|gen · Post by **z|gen** » Sat May 21, 2005 12:56 pm

wouldnt the ae7* be closer to a RWD 4age sedan, since they come with a 3A-U or in some cases overseas, the 4A-C?

RS13 · Post by **RS13** » Sat May 21, 2005 1:08 pm

Well, the TE71 sedan has a 1600 twincam EFi (2GTEU), which with a t-50, 2-piece driveshaft, and nicer interior than an AE70, efi pump, lines etc, would be more comparable to a 4AGE sedan, than a little 1500 sohc carb 3A-U with K50 etc, would.

z|gen · Post by **z|gen** » Sat May 21, 2005 1:18 pm

thats true

MetalupYoAss · Post by **MetalupYoAss** » Sun May 22, 2005 2:49 pm

2TG's are FAR heavier than A series motors, AE85/6 and AE70 share cross members so the engines mount in exactly same position on both cars (sedan and wagon)

RS13 · Post by **RS13** » Sun May 22, 2005 6:32 pm

Yes, but with a heavier duty driveshaft, rear end, bigger gearbox, bigger brakes, better interior, the TE71 sedan is closer to a 4age sedan than an AE70, with little k50, single piece driveshaft, little rear end with drums, and budget interior. Surely a 2TG would only weigh a few kg more than say, a redtop 4AGE?

NA Drifter · Post by **NA Drifter** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:17 pm

i got TE71 and AE86.. the 2tgeu look like 2liter motor after I saw 4age up closes and compare them side to side!
2 peoples can lift up an 4AGE, but I don't think so for 2TGEU

But they both good motor. no problem about the weight when drifting... :wink:

... just go real fast then you can't tell the different.. :lol:

MetalupYoAss · Post by **MetalupYoAss** » Mon May 23, 2005 7:21 pm

a/t/k E70's share front brakes, the weight differences between gearbox and rear ends and interior would be negligable anyway..
Best thing to do is get a TE71 with all the bling interior, chrome bits and running gear and 4AGE it, and lose the recirculating ball steering. then you get the best of everything (and closest thing to an ae86)

kingcorolla · Post by **kingcorolla** » Mon May 23, 2005 11:18 pm

MetalupYoAss wrote:Best thing to do is get a TE71 with all the bling interior, chrome bits and running gear and 4AGE it, and lose the recirculating ball steering. then you get the best of everything (and closest thing to an ae86)

or you could get a carina..

if you can find one!

but the big running gear, irs etc weigh the car down significantly, especially with a full tank and my fat ass behind the wheel.

meh, who needs a flash interior

Toyspeed

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