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Postby beerad » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:34 pm

Hey guys just installed the lowering springs into the caldina, it only lowerd about 2inches, i really needed it to go down 4. This was with RSR lowering springs, what you reakon the best bet is to get it lower without doing something illegal
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Postby pervert » Wed Jun 29, 2005 7:41 pm

Get the RSR's compressed another couple of inches. :D

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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:36 pm

wtf! 2 inches is rather a bit, and 4 inches is huge.....
youll prob need shortend struts. i think 4 inches is a bit much on a caldina. but the choice is yours

compressing springs is... well... if you want to keep any semblance of ride....
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Postby pervert » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:40 pm

Don't listen to him, he is just being a Nana... :lol:
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:44 pm

riiiiiight. :roll:
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Postby evil_si » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:11 pm

for 4" drop on any car, you really want to use coilovers in my opinion,
2" lowered springs wont want to be cut a further 2" or even compressed that much more.
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Postby fivebob » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:19 pm

I doubt there is more than 5-6" total travel in the standard shocks so doing a 4" drop will leave only 1-2" of available travel, not a good idea.

evil_si is right, the only sensible way to get the drop you want is to go to coilovers. Even then I'm not sure you can get a 4" drop and still have a legal car, I think there'd be some parts pf the car that would be too low to get a WOF.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:29 pm

go grap a ruler and measure the drop you want... most ppl are suprised when they do that.... also may want to consider some carbon fibre undertrays!
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Postby pervert » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:46 pm

Any adjustable coil-over setup must be certified as well, so don't forget to factor in that cost.
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Postby Dell'Orto » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:04 pm

Dont forget, new springs settle after a while too, so they may go down another 10mm in a month or so.
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Re: caldina didnt go down!

Postby aesc » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:16 pm

beerad wrote:Hey guys just installed the lowering springs into the caldina, it only lowerd about 2inches, i really needed it to go down 4. This was with RSR lowering springs, what you reakon the best bet is to get it lower without doing something illegal


Are you serious? Did you really think you were going to get 4" out of lowering springs :? Your lucky you got 2", most aftermarket S/L springs claim theyll give a 50mm drop but barely ever do
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Postby blitza » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:27 pm

Mr Revhead wrote: also may want to consider some carbon fibre undertrays!


or perhaps 7071 ali?
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Postby levin_it_large » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:16 am

Dont forget, new springs settle after a while too, so they may go down another 10mm in a month or so.


this is very true, so don't do anything with it just yet wait for it to settle, 2.5" is nothing to cry about mate
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Postby bad20v » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:18 am

Mr Revhead wrote:wtf! 2 inches is rather a bit, and 4 inches is huge.....
youll prob need shortend struts. i think 4 inches is a bit much on a caldina. but the choice is yours

compressing springs is... well... if you want to keep any semblance of ride....


I totally agree!

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Compressed springs dont last and you could have problems with variation in ride height between the 4 corners. Trust me, I had my springs in my ae101 trueno compressed 40mm and they settled bout two weeks later, giving my car a 70mm drop and a really poor ride. Had to get a wheel alignment every month to stop the steering wheel from shaking over 80kph!
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Postby EVL GSXR » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:48 am

If you want to drop your car's heap's and still have a half decent ride fork out and get some Adjustable's.. I didn't want to shell out before I got mine but once I installed them I notice I should have done it sooner.. If you got the money get Adjustable Damping Coil Over's as my Starlet still rode like it did with the King Spring's wasn't a harsh ride at all..
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Postby beerad » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:27 pm

all that needed to be said is that if u want lower go to coil overs. i didnt ask on an opinion about going lower.
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Postby Malcolm » Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:12 pm

in response to the comments regarding going super low with coilovers = good handling - not true
The problem with going very low, no matter what kind of struts/shocks/springs you use, is the changes in suspension geometry. On MacPherson strut suspension, once the lower control arm goes past horizontal you will get positive camber on any further suspension travel, such as when you're cornering at speed. This is very undesirable! If you really want to go low and get good handling, you need to look at your suspension design, look into roll center adjusters, and have a look at the bump steer characteristics, as you will often find that when you go very low, the region of normal suspension travel experiences severe bump steer.
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Postby 99gtt » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:23 pm

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Postby TrouserFxGt » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:54 pm

All_Fours wrote:in response to the comments regarding going super low with coilovers = good handling - not true
The problem with going very low, no matter what kind of struts/shocks/springs you use, is the changes in suspension geometry. On MacPherson strut suspension, once the lower control arm goes past horizontal you will get positive camber on any further suspension travel, such as when you're cornering at speed. This is very undesirable! If you really want to go low and get good handling, you need to look at your suspension design, look into roll center adjusters, and have a look at the bump steer characteristics, as you will often find that when you go very low, the region of normal suspension travel experiences severe bump steer.


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