blacktop oil

The place for all technical car discussions. If you haven't already, read our Disclaimer first!

Moderator: The Mod Squad

blacktop oil

Postby BzzzzR » Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:57 am

hi guys , now i know this has been asked many times :D , but i need advice on what oil to put in to my blacktop , for the past 2 yrs i have always done oil changes every 8000ks :P and used mobil1 and a trd oil filter , but i am starting to question paying $80 8O for 4ltr of oil ,so my quistion is what oil would u reccomend???? :D
BzzzzzzzzR
BzzzzR
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:13 pm
Location: Palmerston North

Postby Bling » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:03 am

I use magnatec, $35 on special :P

doesn't really matter what oil I put in mine tho, it drinks all brands :oops:
User avatar
Bling
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 15990
Joined: Mon Dec 22, 2003 9:02 pm
Location: Quake City

Postby sergei » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:18 am

I use castrolR 10w60, but magnatec will be much better value for money
User avatar
sergei
Mad Russian
 
Posts: 8406
Joined: Wed May 15, 2002 12:06 pm
Location: North Shore

Postby phatman3801 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:40 am

cant go wrng with castrol 15w 40 protec :lol:
current project/ride: BZG levin
User avatar
phatman3801
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:10 pm
Location: gizzy

Postby BzzzzR » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:07 am

cheers guys , il be doing a shop around , i dont mind paying for quality :D its just that i dont think mobil gives me that value for money :?
BzzzzzzzzR
BzzzzR
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 169
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2005 1:13 pm
Location: Palmerston North

Postby Spannergal » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:12 am

couldn't tell you oil prices, but I know that toyota in wellington use castrol protec and castrol magnatec - both with a rating of 10W30.
Last edited by Spannergal on Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:20 am, edited 1 time in total.
Spannergal
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 829
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:44 pm
Location: Wellington

Postby phatman3801 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:17 am

lyn_m wrote:couldn't tell you oil prices, but I know that toyota in wellington use castrol protec and castrol magnatec - both with a rating of 15W30.


magnatec has a rating of 10w 40 not 15w 40
current project/ride: BZG levin
User avatar
phatman3801
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:10 pm
Location: gizzy

Postby Spannergal » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:22 am

phatman3801 wrote:
lyn_m wrote:couldn't tell you oil prices, but I know that toyota in wellington use castrol protec and castrol magnatec - both with a rating of 15W30.


magnatec has a rating of 10w 40 not 15w 40


that was supposed to be 10w30, as i've now corrected it to. and that's what its got noted on all of the magnatec stuff in the workshop (which I should know by now seeing as the guys always get me to write out the service stickers, etc) - i'd say its possible that it comes in a few different ratings
Spannergal
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 829
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:44 pm
Location: Wellington

Postby phatman3801 » Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:53 pm

lyn_m wrote:that was supposed to be 10w30, as i've now corrected it to. and that's what its got noted on all of the magnatec stuff in the workshop (which I should know by now seeing as the guys always get me to write out the service stickers, etc) - i'd say its possible that it comes in a few different ratings


nope all mangnatec is 10w 40 the the protec is in both 20w 50 and 15w 40
current project/ride: BZG levin
User avatar
phatman3801
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 404
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 2:10 pm
Location: gizzy

Postby KinLoud » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:47 pm

I would guess that you would have spent more than $800 on petrol after driving 8000km...
Soooo - $80 spent on oil isn't too outrageous.
Give it good oil and genuine toyotas oil filter and think about changing both every 5000km.
You won't go wrong doing this.

Ken
Ham
021 408 863
I used to think that the orange and green tictacs gave you special powers. The orange ones would make you stronger and the green ones would make you faster. So i used to eat some green ones and run around my lounge as fast as i could, then eat the orange ones and try to pick up the sofa. I wish it were true!
User avatar
KinLoud
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 2893
Joined: Thu May 16, 2002 7:39 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby Mr Revhead » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:20 pm

how much is your engine worth to you?

personally i think mobil 1 is a bit thin, 20vs use a bit of oil. i use shell helix plus. no complaints. basiclly any oil from a good brand in the 10-15 40-50 range will be fine. as ken said a genuine filter (TRD is also very good) is an important thing, ryco filters work, but you wont find one on my car. and i can get em for like $5 each....
Being the subject of E-whinges since 2004 8)

http://www.centralmotorsport.org.nz/home

Image
User avatar
Mr Revhead
SECURITY!
 
Posts: 24635
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 pm
Location: Nelson

Postby Lloyd » Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:38 pm

And what do you get genuine ones for? ;)
User avatar
Lloyd
** Moderator **
 
Posts: 6195
Joined: Tue Oct 15, 2002 1:50 pm
Location: Dunedin

Postby quinny » Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:52 am

i cane the ass off mine with 15w 40 reppys oil and all go with the ryco. old girl never misses a beat, after seeing oil tests done on loaded bearings i have realised they are all crap, especially mobil one, might as well pay crap all for crap oil.
currently beating - AE101 Sedan, blacktop/6spd, tein coilovers, braided lines, cup holder, and every other bloody thing possible.
quinny
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 98
Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2004 5:49 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby Paolo 20v » Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:37 pm

What specs has the Mobil 1 you buy down there in New Zealand?? Is it 0w-40? 'cause here in Perú Mobil 1 was sold 'till now as 15w-50, but recently they're coming thinner, 0w-40. I use Castrol RS 10w-60 in my blacktop 20v, 'cause I always hear about the "wonderful benefits" of it on revvy engines, but I've been uncertain about using it sometimes, considering my engine has now 160.000km done and it's beginning to drink more oil since the last 20.000km. Any suggestions?? Thanks mates :wink:
Paolo 20v
Paolo 20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:55 pm

Postby Spannergal » Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:30 pm

phatman3801 wrote:
lyn_m wrote:that was supposed to be 10w30, as i've now corrected it to. and that's what its got noted on all of the magnatec stuff in the workshop (which I should know by now seeing as the guys always get me to write out the service stickers, etc) - i'd say its possible that it comes in a few different ratings


nope all mangnatec is 10w 40 the the protec is in both 20w 50 and 15w 40


ok double checked at work today - the 10w30 is the rating of the magnatec that the workshop uses, however it is only possible to get in in 10w40 when buying it in bottles.
Spannergal
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 829
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:44 pm
Location: Wellington

Postby B1NZ » Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:54 pm

I use Castrol GTX Protec, seems ok, and if you time it right its only $20 a bottle (like right now at super cheap auto)

Not worth putting Mobil 1 in a car that drinks it! And besides i've already had 2 vechiles shit themselves running that useless crap :evil: - so now i never buy anything from mobil!!!!!
Subaru GF8 Wagon
Subaru GC8 rally car project
http://www.hccc.org.nz - Keep up to date with all motorsport events in the Wellington region
User avatar
B1NZ
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 6043
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2002 7:20 pm
Location: Capital City

Postby peas » Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:03 pm

Shell Helix 10w40 (semi-syn) Easily the best oil I have used. My 3S doesnt drink much of it at all and its still smooth as a few '000km after the service. I've used many, Pennzoil, Mobil, Castrol, BP but Shell seems to do it for me.

Whats a genuine filter worth... roughly?

Im using a z386 on my 185 even though it recommends a z191a cos its a easier fit and I have seen too many z191a's leak!
'97 Caldina GT (ST215G)
User avatar
peas
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 398
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:30 am
Location: North Shore

Postby 10k 20v » Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:43 pm

I recomend shell ultra but i pay bugger all for it :D
corny line startsc" if its good enough for a Ferrari " corny line ends
Image
User avatar
10k 20v
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 959
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:32 pm
Location: PUKEKOHE

Postby levin_it_large » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:44 am

so now i never buy anything from mobil!!!!


i'm exactly the same way - damn mobil staff stealing your petrol caps, why o why did I have to be in Warkworth when it happened.

Never gone to buy petrol from Mobil again :D

Have used both Protec and Magnatec in the 20v no problems
levin_it_large
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 902
Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 5:57 pm
Location: North Shore

Postby RAZA » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:22 am

I use the valvoline vr1 semi synthetic in my blacktop and it seems good.

Used to use Mobil 1 but a couple of years ago there were a couple of posts on here or on SDU where people had found that it suddenly went gluey. Was probably just a bad batch or something but after that I changed and now i quite like only spending half as much on oil that seems to do the same thing.
Currently driving:

BMW 135i M
User avatar
RAZA
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 850
Joined: Mon May 20, 2002 9:43 pm
Location: Auckland

Next

Return to Tech Questions

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests