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by **XERO** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:53 pm

Hey Guys

I own a 1997 Caldina GT (3SGE BEAMS) I am looking at getting better induction and airflow into my engine...

At the moment i have a TRD panel filter in my car and a friend of mine said that the K&N panel filter should be better??? Is this true??

Also he has a GT-T and it looks like the intake plume is bigger on my car, is this factory??

by **Adamal** » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:58 pm

Can you supply some pics?

by **RomanV** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:51 am

Read this.

We suggest that you retain the standard factory filter element in the box - the huge power gains apparently made by replacing this element with an aftermarket one are simply mythical.

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_0542/article.html

by **XERO** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:59 pm

Adamal wrote:Can you supply some pics?

Im not sure how to get images online.. could i email it to you??

by **Defective** » Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:25 pm

the main advantages using a k&n filter are that they never have to be replaced, just wash and reuse.
just replacing a panel filter will never yield huge increases.

unless the old one was clogged full of crap that is....

also i seem to remember some magazine doing a test on filters and some brands of paper filters can flow better than reusable filters...

dunno about trd stuff, but no reason to think it would be a bad thing.

Santa's TardMe Listings · by **Santa'sBoostinSleigh** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:33 am

XERO wrote:
Adamal wrote:Can you supply some pics?

Im not sure how to get images online.. could i email it to you??

XERO: there are plenty of *free* hosting sites available
if you want email them to me and i can host them for you

acotter@maxnet.co.nz

by **FLAWLES** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:43 am

RomanV wrote:Read this.

We suggest that you retain the standard factory filter element in the box - the huge power gains apparently made by replacing this element with an aftermarket one are simply mythical.

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_0542/article.html

so true we dynod a sw20 3sgte and tried about 3 diff types off filter the factory paper filteer got the most gain

so i would highly reckomend a trd filter

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:21 am

tricky.....
k&n have the rep and the following!
TRD are good..... however only the k&n is reusable.
so.... hp gain = who knows.....
value for money = k&n

i personally use a k&n panel

by **RomanV** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:30 am

Yeah, but is that how you managed to get 51 kw?

*Senses a disturbance in the force*

Something horrible has happened...
I sense....
a price increase

It was worth it

by **Mr Revhead** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:33 am

haha your pistons are sitting here........

as a reference, a gen2 sw20 turbo made 120 odd kw on 13ish psi.....
again that car is showing no signs of not running properly

by **CozmoNz** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:23 pm

big numbers there revhead

.

performance filters will reduce filtration to increase flow.

take your pick.. standard air filters are fine, the airbox is the bottle neck (in some cars), and cold air pickup.

If you just run a duct to teh cold air box, youll probbaly notice the most gain, bar a full out cai (fully sealed etc).

i put a TOMS one in my old ae111, to be honest, i only noticed a difference because i was expcting it, anyone else in the car wouldnt know the difference at all.

by **TWSTD** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:48 pm

Mark forget it - TRD / KnN / Simota / other reasonable quality gear - there is stuff all difference in performance. Spend your money on a turbo!

AL :-)

by **99gtt** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 7:23 pm

I remember a few years back reading in fast fours they dynoed every available air filter on the market ,results were a maximum of 1.5 kw at the wheels and a difference of 1kw from the cheapest to the most exspensive. k&n was at the top by a fraction over simota and some other brands

by **XERO** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:48 pm

TWSTD wrote:Mark forget it - TRD / KnN / Simota / other reasonable quality gear - there is stuff all difference in performance. Spend your money on a turbo!

AL

You know i wanna do that al

.... let me have a turbo insurance company!!! Please!!!

by **XERO** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:17 am

Adamal wrote:Can you supply some pics?

Here ya go dude... who needs a little clean then

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by **Alex B** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:36 am

redtop is black?? hurrr

by **RomanV** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:35 am

Yep, some came unpainted.

Perhaps they figured caldina owners never look under the bonnet anyway. :lol:

*runs away*

by **XERO** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:18 am

Blacktop has the dual VVTi like the altezzas... Redtop Beams came out in mr2's and such....

I think the redtop was good for 190ps
and the blacktop is good for 210-220ps

by **Mr Revhead** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:41 am

its simple.. the engine is red in sw20s causw sw20 owners are poseurs. so they need the bling :lol:

Santa's TardMe Listings · by **Santa'sBoostinSleigh** » Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:52 am

Mr Revhead wrote:its simple.. the engine is red in sw20s causw sw20 owners are poseurs. so they need the bling

but also remember that bling and red makes you go faster

i mean neons are the most effective mod to do to get more HP!

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