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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:49 pm

yeah i was thinking about heading down the bolt on route - what do ya need to do and how much $$ + effort?
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Postby Dell'Orto » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:01 pm

SIKTOY wrote:I disagree with the forced induction on beams.

There are many aftermarket kits (most well known is blitz) for SC and turboing the beams engine with pretty good results using factory internals and cams etc.


Yes there are, but run anything less than 100 octane, and more than 8psi, and your conrods can be mistaken for modern art.
Any high compression motor wont take kindly to massive forced induction...they're just not built solid enough to handle the forces involved.
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Postby SIKTOY » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:12 pm

Very true mmm boost,

but they are no worse than any other high comp NA motor.

As for bolt on kits, why not a bolt in motor?

3SGTE anyone? A lot easier, cheaper and reliable to get a write off and swap all the go fast bits in and convert to FR configuration.

Or am I tired and missing some vital piece of info that will prevent someone from doing this?
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Postby SIKTOY » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:14 pm

Did you think of buying an already turbo'd tezza?

There are a few around and would save you a lot of time and probably $$$ too.
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Postby offensive » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:25 pm

3sgte's are designed to be mounted on a slant i think, not vertical like altezza 3sges, heard of some slant 3sge, gtes been rwd mounted and dying cos of oil problems..... or something
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Postby SIKTOY » Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:31 pm

duh, my bad.

You could always make a 3S G/TE hybrid.

I dunno, whatever floats you boat.

Greddy and blitz both do turbo kit, (im pretty sure)
Dunno if you can get it here though.

Have a look round, its amazing what you can find when you look hard enough.

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Postby MikeMan » Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:10 am

Look for a TOMS 280T
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Postby anthonym » Wed Sep 07, 2005 8:04 am

SIKTOY wrote:Very true mmm boost,

but they are no worse than any other high comp NA motor.

As for bolt on kits, why not a bolt in motor?

3SGTE anyone? A lot easier, cheaper and reliable to get a write off and swap all the go fast bits in and convert to FR configuration.

Or am I tired and missing some vital piece of info that will prevent someone from doing this?

I don't think it's fatigue, you don't have a clue what you are talking about :roll:. Some advice: when you find yourself in a hole it is wise to stop digging. In this case a search would be a good start as this topic has aleady been beaten to death.
To reprise, turbocharging the Altezza 3SGE properly and reliably costs >$15,000, anything less is an unreliable bodge and a complete waste of time IMO. There are dreamers who will continue to argue against this but they understand the issues involved only slightly more than you do.
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Postby DJ » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:16 am

MikeMan wrote:Look for a TOMS 280T


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Postby SIKTOY » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:12 pm

I stand corrected anthonym :oops:

I was only trying to help on the factory comparisons.
I didnt say I knew anything about forced induction'd altezzaz.

And point taken, I take my cue and shut up now.
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Postby jasestu » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:16 pm

SIKTOY wrote:If you want lots of info, surf through HERE

You'll learn EVERYTHING you ever needed to know about altezza's.


Actually you won't learn everything about Altezzas over there. Most of them on the UK forum are IS200s - so info on the 3SGE can be lacking. Don't forget the NZ forums mentined at the start of the thread.
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Postby jasestu » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:26 pm

SIKTOY wrote:damn, they are supposed to be in columns, i forgot about that, hope you can understand.

Beams = bloody good valve timing system (basically)

Note: Toyota quotes the RS beams engines at 147KW. (197 HP) :P


The 3SGE BEAMS in the manual Altezza is 210 hp
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Postby SIKTOY » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:39 pm

Everyone finished ripping me to pieces?

Oh and you are right, about that. my bad AGAIN. :oops:
Its 154.46 kw = 207hp = 210ps. if you want to be really accurate :?

Man, I need to read properly before I post.

Apologies, I know when Im wrong.

No need to be too pedantic though.

I remove myself from this conversation before anyone feels the need to shoot me down some more.

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Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:04 pm

when at rally hawkes bay there was a car yard with 2 altezzas on the yard with big front mounts....

just in case anyones keen for a look.


its not a cheap job... just the other day i priced a blitz s/c kit for one.
if your lucky you can get it on the car and running for under $9k
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Postby Santa'sBoostinSleigh » Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:33 pm

Mr Revhead wrote:when at rally hawkes bay there was a car yard with 2 altezzas on the yard with big front mounts....

just in case anyones keen for a look.


its not a cheap job... just the other day i priced a blitz s/c kit for one.
if your lucky you can get it on the car and running for under $9k

there is/was (last week) a s/c one here in NP but i havent had a chance to look yet
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Postby jasestu » Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:18 am

SIKTOY wrote:Everyone finished ripping me to pieces?

I remove myself from this conversation before anyone feels the need to shoot me down some more.

farewell ladies and gents.


The F on farewell needs to be a capital since it's at the start of a new sentence. :) Okay, now I'm done.

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