Compressing springs

[pervert]

Doesn't really bother me, not like I ever race people anyway...why else would it need to go fast?

[scope]

..not like I ever race people anyway...

[bad20v]

sooo slow though

Not exactly, I got my 4K out of a KE70 wagon and dropped it into my KP60 starlet. Goes heaps better in a car with half the weight! And its so bl#@dy reliable and easy to work on! We thrash the hell out of it when we race and it still runs mint. Oils still golden, doesn't smoke and starts first pop every time!

And it has alot more poke than a little standard 2K!

[RE20]

hell yeah, I have a sacked k series starlet, its as low as I need it on lovells at the moment, have thought a few times about taking one more coil off but then it would just be silly As for compressing springs it would depend on the car alot and who does it. Some companies can make them progressive. The best is brand springs compressed a little if required as has been suggested.

[scope]

Not exactly, I got my 4K out of a KE70 wagon and dropped it into my KP60 starlet. Goes heaps better in a car with half the weight! And its so bl#@dy reliable and easy to work on! We thrash the hell out of it when we race and it still runs mint. Oils still golden, doesn't smoke and starts first pop every time!

And it has alot more poke than a little standard 2K!

haha, yeah i can see this being true. not fast though in my big clump of metal

[bad20v]

Not exactly, I got my 4K out of a KE70 wagon and dropped it into my KP60 starlet. Goes heaps better in a car with half the weight! And its so bl#@dy reliable and easy to work on! We thrash the hell out of it when we race and it still runs mint. Oils still golden, doesn't smoke and starts first pop every time!

And it has alot more poke than a little standard 2K!

haha, yeah i can see this being true. not fast though in my big clump of metal

Put it on a diet then! Every car can afford to lose some weight. Helps it in sooo many ways.

[scope]

i'm saving up some $$ to put in a 4agte

[bad20v]

i'm saving up some $$ to put in a 4agte

SWVEEEEETT!!! Should have a bit more go!!

[HZRDIZ]

OK well for starters it aint for a toyota. Come on people I have a GSR!!! Well my other option is just getting Evo 4-6 springs cause they fit straight in but thought compressing might of been cheaper. Evo 4 height is just the right height. Not to hard but still looks low.

Thanks

[JT]

A mate has the same shape lancer not even a gsr, on king springs and it handles suprisingly well, it looks slightly lower in the back but thats because of the guard heights, the front of the car is slightly lower

50mm is a large percentage of suspension travel, I doubt you really need to go this much lower and it will probably handle and ride like crap without other changes like roll center adjusters and short-stroke shocks.

[Dell'Orto]

Have you tried Chamberlain's? They do off the shelf Cobra springs for most cars, as well as custom making springs.

[Skidman]

I hate to break it to you guys, but cutting springs or compressing them is bloody dangerous. Anybody know what bump steer is? i guess its the time old question, how much is your life worth? save the money up and do it properly. It'll handle so much better. Cut and compressed springs are for paddock bashers.
Sorry guys but too meny of us are dying on the roads due to this exact thing. Lets try not to crash and get the police off our backs.

[pervert]

I hate to break it to you guys, but cutting springs or compressing them is bloody dangerous.

What a load a bullshit, ask anyone with any decent suspension knowledge and they will tell you cutting or compressing springs is not dangerous IF DONE CORRECTLY...for a start keeping the spring captive is vital, and most cut jobs aren't captive...which IS bloody dangerous...

People have been cutting springs since coils were around, it's not the cutting that makes them dangerous, its the cutting huge amounts off and leaving all other components stock that is dangerous, and why it is now illegal...lets not forget compressing springs is legal if done correctly, why would that be the case if they were so dangerous?

What fatal crashes were it again where cut springs were the cause? I think you're getting confused with 16 year olds driving 200kW cars...

[Skidman]

Hey look to be honest im only telling you what ive been told in my years of traning. But think about this, if you have a spring with a lenght of 350mm cut 50mm off and you have a 300mm spring? right., factory springs are made to prevent your car from hitting the bump stops (in 99% of situations). Seem as you are NOT changing the springs ablity to resist compression the car will hit the bump stops with 50mm removed. Bump steer if you dont understand it is when one of the wheels is alowed to travel and hit its bump stop while the other remains somewhere round its orginal ride height, this pulls the tierod end outwards, and therefore the wheel.
This is the case when cornering hard and you hit a bump, forcing the wheel to turn in a smaller arc, therefore pulling the car round the corner sharper than you expect. (how ever compressed springs done correctly do not pose such a great risk, but are still covered by the same principal)
Lowering springs do not compress as easily because they are designed not to hit the bump stops.


Im not the best person to be explaning all this to be honest so if ive got bits wrong, sorry ive tryed to explain it to the best of my knowlege.

[pervert]

Yup, what you are saying is completely true, but thats why you don't compress/cut too much off, if you really go to town on the lowering then you need to use shorter struts, and modify the bumpstops too if need be, being that a lot of strut assemblies don't use a bumpstop as such, in these cases a shorter shock helps this.

I'm not debating that there are better ways to lower a car, but to say that compressing/cutting is incredibly unsafe in every situation is wrong...it can be done safely and still leave you with a driveable car that isn't going to kill everyone on the road.

[wde_bdy]

Compressing or cutting (if done properly) is not dangerous.
The problems come with any lowering job where you go past the point of good handling without using the proper compensating parts such as roll centre adjusters etc.
Prime example -



Way too low, puts your bottom arms on an upward angle and seriously $&#$% your suspension geometry, roll centre etc.

Looks "COOL" though.

[FXGT]

Hey fellaz...

I wanna get my springs Compressed - a FXGT ae92. Has anyone done that (here) to their AE92's? If so... how much did you get them compressed by and how much did it drop?

Any recommendations (sp?) will be great!

Cheers!

[pervert]

..not like I ever race people anyway...

Ummm...

Why's that funny?

[bad20v]

Hey fellaz...

I wanna get my springs Compressed - a FXGT ae92. Has anyone done that (here) to their AE92's? If so... how much did you get them compressed by and how much did it drop?

Any recommendations (sp?) will be great!

Cheers!

Read the whole thread or.....

Buy new ones. They are cheap enough and will last longer with a better ride feel and handling.

[pervert]

Hey fellaz...

I wanna get my springs Compressed - a FXGT ae92. Has anyone done that (here) to their AE92's? If so... how much did you get them compressed by and how much did it drop?

Any recommendations (sp?) will be great!

Cheers!

Read the whole thread or.....
Buy new ones. They are cheap enough and will last longer with a better ride feel and handling.

But he asked if anyone has done this in an AE92 specifically...this thread doesn't mention anyone doing it in an AE92, so therefore reading the thread won't answer his question, and as for buying new ones, that's not what he asked...

Get with the program...