Toyspeed virtual drag race competition. *CLOSED FOR NOW*

barryogen · Post by **barryogen** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:19 am

I have to admit, this is an f'ing cool program... and not too badly off for the 1/4 and 0-100(I had a go last night and got within 0.5 sec for both, which given I've never done it before isn't too bad).

Gadget · Post by **Gadget** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:08 am

Hrmmm mine are all pretty accurate... that is indeed quite amazing! Right down to even the fuel consumption isn't too far off (AKL to Taupo it used 32L, which is about 13L/100Km)

HELBND · Post by **HELBND** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:11 am

hmmm.... will have to take the supra to a slalom some time :lol:

well all those results are about what i expected... will have to take it down to meremere once its running again

Malcolm · Post by **Malcolm** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:56 am

There you have it, the 3sgte aw11 is the ultimate car

Although I must say I doubt it would do a 12.3 1/4 mile, but if it did I'd be so happy I'd probably cream my pants.

in hindsight the engine HP figure I gave might have been a bit high, if drivetrain loss is 15% then I'd guestimate power should be more like 280hp

also the wild guestimate on the torque might be way off also

XS1V · Post by **XS1V** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:52 am

Car title/user name: AE101 GTZ / XS1V
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1587cc
Engine Location: Front
Type: SC
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM: 200hp@6100rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM: 175ft-lbs @ 4000rpm
Compression ratio 8.9:1
Redline RPM: 7200rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 speed
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.166
2: 1.904
3: 1.392
4: 1.031
5: 0.815
Final drive ratio: 4.5
Driving wheels: front

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 1110kgs.
front/rear weight distribution: 60/40
Wheelbase in cms: 246cm.
Tire size: eg. 205/40 R17
Coefficient of drag: .29
Overall height in cms: 110cm
Overall width in cms: 170cm
Ground clearance in cms: 8cm.

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:06 pm

XS1V wrote:Coefficient of drag: .29

U sure about that?
not many cars dip into the .2s

Not bad if its the factory C.D.

bad20v · Post by **bad20v** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:16 pm

RomanV wrote:
XS1V wrote:Coefficient of drag: .29

U sure about that?
not many cars dip into the .2s

Not bad if its the factory C.D.

Dave, Brad's cars not actually black.... its Teflon coated!!!!

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 12:20 pm

Maybe its the GTZ scoop that does it.

barryogen · Post by **barryogen** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:02 pm

Just wondered if you could re-run mine with the following stats.
Basically I'm looking at the SC that Blitz do, and wondered what it would do to the stats.

Car title/user name:SC RunX barryogen/dave.net.nz
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1795cc
Engine Location: Front
Type: SC
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 276hp@7800rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 219ft-lbs @ 6800rpm
Compression ratio eg. 11.5:1
Redline RPM: eg. 8,700rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 6 speed
Manual/Auto: MT
Gear ratios
1: 3.17
2: 2.05
3: 1.48
4: 1.17
5: 0.92
6: 0.82
Final drive ratio:4.53
Driving wheels: Front

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 1230kgs.
front/rear weight distribution: 55/45
Wheelbase in cms: eg. 260cm.
Tire size: 205/50 R16
Coefficient of drag: .3XX
Overall height in cms: 141cm
Overall width in cms: 170cm
Ground clearance in cms: 10cm.

Drag coefficient is a guestimate, the reast was gleamed from the sites provied, or google.

JT · Post by JT » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:02 pm

Here's what I've been able to find.

Car title/user name: AE86 Levin / JT
Bluetop 4age
Displacement: 1587cc
Engine Location: Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 137hp@6600rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 110ft-lbs @ 4500rpm
Compression ratio 9.4:1
Redline RPM: 7,700rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 speed
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.587
2: 2.022
3: 1.384
4: 1.000
5: 0.861
Final drive ratio: 4.3:1
Driving wheels: back

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 990kgs
front/rear weight distribution: 56:44
Wheelbase in cms: 240cm
Tire size: 195/55 R15
Coefficient of drag: .35
Overall height in cms: 132.6cm
Overall width in cms: 162.6cm
Ground clearance in cms: 12cm

Car has been dyno'd and taken down the quater a couple of times so will be interesting to see how it compares.

Snoozin · Post by **Snoozin** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:24 pm

As I would have thought the Alfa is fairly well represented in the handling type tests... I'd say power would let it down around the 'ring.

As for the quarter.... how do I get a 15.04 in real life... my best is a 16.1 @ 139km/h, so I think I best work on my technique :lol:

Top speed isn't too far off either... I've seen a radar verified smidgeon over 200km/h in my car....

Stealer Of Souls · Post by **Stealer Of Souls** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:25 pm

Just on JT's stats there. (If it's a real 86 then use the t50 ratios)...

T50 Ratios are this
3.587
2.022
1.384
1.000
0.861

K50 are
3.789
2.220
1.435
1.000
0.865

Lanius · Post by **Lanius** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:59 pm

boxxy wrote:
GGnz wrote:I'd love to see some Toyota vs Honda comparisions. Like 20V vs B18c etc.

i wouldnt... i think those dirty dirty hoondas would pawn us (20v owners)all

Speak for yourself

Car title/user name: AE82 Corolla GT / Lanius
(Engine info)
Displacement: 1587cc
Engine Location:Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 170@7800rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 130@5600rpm
Compression ratio 11:1
Redline RPM: 8000rpm

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 speed
Manual/Auto: manual
Gear ratios (below)
1: 3.166
2: 1.904
3: 1.310
4: 0.969
5: 0.815
6:
Final drive ratio:
Driving wheels: front

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 930kgs
front/rear weight distribution: 56:44
Wheelbase in cms: 240cm
Tire size: 195/55 R15
Coefficient of drag: .35
Overall height in cms: 132.6cm
Overall width in cms: 162.6cm
Ground clearance in cms: 12cm

Have copied the driveline ratios from someone elses post who appears to have a gearbox from either blacktop or silvertop 4AGE. Engine has been mildly modified, but I've left the power figures as standard.

I can't find anywhere accurate on the net that has the weight distribution, height, length etc for a NZ New AE82, so I've used the details from an AE86 as its roughly the same size / shape / weight as mine (although the 82s are supposed to be lighter than the 86s). If anyone is able to correct these details, PLEASE feel free

JT · Post by JT » Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:25 pm

Stealer Of Souls wrote:Just on JT's stats there. (If it's a real 86 then use the t50 ratios)...

Haha that'll teach me for copy & paste.
Pretty sure everything else is close enough.

XS1V · Post by **XS1V** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:59 pm

RomanV wrote:
XS1V wrote:Coefficient of drag: .29

U sure about that?
not many cars dip into the .2s

Not bad if its the factory C.D.

Well thats all ive been able to find, or 0.30 was the other one so... what ever you want to use dave

soven · Post by **soven** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:52 pm

just for a laugh

Car title/user name: SlowST202

(Engine info)
Displacement: 1998
Engine Location: Front
Type: NA
(at flywheel)Horsepower@RPM 138@6000rpm
(at flywheel)Ft-lbs of torque@RPM 138@4400rpm
Compression ratio 9.5
Redline RPM: 6400

(drivetrain info)
Gears: 5 speed
Manual/Auto: Auto
Gear ratios (below)
1: 2.810
2: 1.549
3: 1.000
4: 0.706
5:
6: (if applicable)
Final drive ratio: 3.95:1
Driving wheels: Front

(Chassis and body info)
Car weight in kgs: 1190 (dry weight)
front/rear weight distribution: ?
Wheelbase in cms: 253.5
Tire size: 205/55 R15
Coefficient of drag: ?
Overall height in cms: 130.5
Overall width in cms: 145.0
Ground clearance in cms: 14.5

GGnz · Post by **GGnz** » Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:27 pm

Hey, whats the program called? I might try get a hold of it? If not could you email it to me on ggriffiths@tekotago.ac.nz

JT · Post by JT » Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:55 pm

SnoozinEuro wrote:As for the quarter.... how do I get a 15.04 in real life... my best is a 16.1 @ 139km/h, so I think I best work on my technique

Top speed isn't too far off either... I've seen a radar verified smidgeon over 200km/h in my car....

Have you weighed your car or had it on the dyno? With your power to weight ratio as listed you should have a higher trap speed than that which could indicate one or both of those two is a little off.

barryogen · Post by **barryogen** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:34 am

JT wrote:
SnoozinEuro wrote:As for the quarter.... how do I get a 15.04 in real life... my best is a 16.1 @ 139km/h, so I think I best work on my technique

Top speed isn't too far off either... I've seen a radar verified smidgeon over 200km/h in my car....

Have you weighed your car or had it on the dyno? With your power to weight ratio as listed you should have a higher trap speed than that which could indicate one or both of those two is a little off.

I would imagine that we are listing the car weight, and not adding the driver to it... me, I'd kill my cars performance, I add 134Kgs to my car... not to mention if it had a full tank of gas(another ~50kgs)

RomanV · Post by **RomanV** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:06 am

I'll add the extra cars in tonight if I have the time.

Anyone who wants this program, can get it here:

http://www.cartestsoftware.com/cartest4.5/