MR2 turbo AFM not so restrictive after all.

[Al]

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=1 ... ge=1&pp=30

You will need to register. Basically shows a 5rwhp difference between an AFM and no AFM at ~300rwhp. Another test was done at ~230rwhp and it was only 3rwhp difference.

Quite amusing piece of mis-information I read in NZPC a few years ago said the stock mr2 AFM couldnt flow more than 250hp

[Mr Revhead]

oh but NZPC is such an informative data source.

[Malcolm]

I used to actually get angry reading the tech advice column in NZPC when I used to actually read the magazine (a couple of years ago now!). Part of my reason for my complete lack of respect for Steve Murch.

[Mr Revhead]

i used to read it for the comedy....

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[barryogen]

I used to actually get angry reading the tech advice column in NZPC when I used to actually read the magazine (a couple of years ago now!). Part of my reason for my complete lack of respect for Steve Murch.

I find the same with "advice" columns of pretty much anything where I know anything about the subject... computer ones are close to the worst.

[Malcolm]

couldn't agree more actually - the more I know about a subject, the more inaccurate people's "advice" or knowledge seems to be. It actually worries me a bit, when I see stuff for instance on the news that I assume must be researched and substantiated I accept it as being true, or near enough to the truth, but as soon as they talk about anything I know about it's like - holy sh*t they have no idea at all...

I was amazed on the sportscar show on tv last night how they were talking about how turbos recirculate exhaust gas to create more power

[barryogen]

couldn't agree more actually - the more I know about a subject, the more inaccurate people's "advice" or knowledge seems to be. It actually worries me a bit, when I see stuff for instance on the news that I assume must be researched and substantiated I accept it as being true, or near enough to the truth, but as soon as they talk about anything I know about it's like - holy sh*t they have no idea at all...

I was amazed on the sportscar show on tv last night how they were talking about how turbos recirculate exhaust gas to create more power

well it does... kinda... in a retarded way of thinking atleast.
Rather than being thrown out the back, it gets re-circulated(through a turbo) which compress's the air... but to say it like that you'd have to be a retard.

[Malcolm]

I think you'd be stretching things pretty far to use the term "recirculated" when describing turbo operating, as recirculating basically means returned to the start of a cycle and put back through

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

I think you'd be stretching things pretty far to use the term "recirculated" when describing turbo operating, as recirculating basically means returned to the start of a cycle and put back through

some kind of term such as 'cogeneration' or duel process or recycled energy should really be used (random things i thought of )

[Punter]

I was amazed on the sportscar show on tv last night how they were talking about how turbos recirculate exhaust gas to create more power

Look they obviously know what there talking about, you can tell cause they listed the MX5 as the #2 best sports car of all time

[RomanV]

I wouldnt disagree with that.

Not that Id ever own one....

So perhaps the MX5 isnt so popular with car enthusiasts, who can spout off 100 other sports cars that are superior for various reasons.
But you have to ask... What percentage of the population do these people represent?

The MX5 deserves its spot, because it made having a sports car a possibility for everyone else.
As well as being reliable, easy to drive, and affordable for a lot of people.

Of course it is inferior to many others based on its technical criteria, but what is the point of a sports car? To have fun in.

MX5's have more than likely bought more driving fun to people (People that wouldnt otherwise enjoy driving) than the next 50 sports cars combined.

Its amusing that exactly these same reasons are why the AE86 was popular, these two cars have a lot in common apart from perceived 'image'.

I find it amusing that people think AE86s are awesome, and MX5s are gay.

[Adamal]

Yea, the whole turbo comment on that show (I only saw the last 10 minutes of it) last night kinda made me say "Huh, wha?"

[no_8wire]

The MX5 deserves its spot, because it made having a sports car a possibility for everyone else.
As well as being reliable, easy to drive, and affordable for a lot of people.

Of course it is inferior to many others based on its technical criteria, but what is the point of a sports car? To have fun in.

Enter the MR2....

[Adamal]

I think the reason the MX-5 would be in there and the MR2 isn't is because the MX-5 is more controllable by the amature on the knifes edge. MR layout cars require a higher level of concentration and ability to take to the limits.

FR's have a tendancy to slowly let the back end go when oversteer occurs. Its much more sudden with MR's.

[RomanV]

As well as the difference in sales....

MR2's were a piss in a bucket, compared to MX5 sales.

Then again, I think the AW11 was a first of its kind, and was very well received at the time.

But it still cant compare to the MX5.

[Adamal]

Yea, I'd say it was probably due to the generalisation that MR2's were unsafe cars!