Going Turbo

[TRD001]

Well I have come to the conclusion that Im going to turbo my Blacktop, I have 1997 B/T with 5spd all wiring and driveshafts, Please note that I am not really on a budget as such And Am wanting to do the job right first time.

As I am aware I need to do and get the following for it to work great:

Turbo TD04 (or similar)
Turbo Exhaust Manifold
External Wastegate
Intercooler and piping
Silvertop Conrods
2mm Or Thicker Head Gasket
TODA Timing belt (or similar)
Aftermarket Computer (Piggybacking Standard)

And I will be porting and polishing The Head to improve Performance.

Off the top of my mind.... Is there anything I have not yet factored in yet,

If I could get any information Or feedback concerning Turboing a Blacktop that would be great.

[RAZA]

I'm no expert but I think normally you'd be better off binning the standard ecu and going fully aftermarket rather than using a piggyback system, especially if you aren't worried about the money. A lot of the other 4agte's around seem to be using link ecu's - maybe check them out?

Apart from that you may want to find out whether the 2mm headgasket is enough to lower your compression ratio sufficiently to handle boost - you may have to look into installing some low comp pistons or something as well.

[EVLGTZ]

injectors, fuel pump

you'll prob need to upgrade your current exhaust setup and also them wanky bits like bov etc

got lsd? if not its a waste of time doing all this without it IMHO

[JT]

Silvertop Conrods
2mm Or Thicker Head Gasket
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Attach some gze pistons to those conrods and do away with your thick head gasket.

[TRD001]

I don't currently have LSD and Im Not too sure I was going to use the standard Pistons? Not too sure good point tho, I am lead to belive that the BT Pistons would be ok. Is this right?

[JT]

I don't currently have LSD and Im Not too sure I was going to use the standard Pistons? Not too sure good point tho, I am lead to belive that the BT Pistons would be ok. Is this right?

They might be ok but a far safer and better option, would be to replace them with gze items, you said yourself you want to do it right the first time.

[Lloyd]

Plus if you're taking out the rods and things then you may as well do it right and put some decent pistons in there. Spend a little extra and do it once rather than trying to save wherever you can and having to do it twice (or more).

And if you are trying to do it on a budget then why spend the extra money on a "performance" cambelt? Standard stuff should do the job alright. Likewise with the wastegate

[Mr Revhead]

yep do the pistons, NOT a thick head gasket.

stock timing belt will be fine, dont waste ya $$$ on toda or those gates "racing" belts

definitly go for the full stand alone ecu.

and yes as mentioned... an LSD!
what is your gearbox out of? BZ-G or BZ-V?

[TRD001]

I was looking at some aftermarket forged pistons, I was under the impression that the 0.8 mm were no good for turbo application, The TODA belt is $60 more than original plus it's heaps sronger, I also am looking at the link + engine managment.

The engine + gearbox is out of A 1997 5spd carib, So is this a BZ-V?

What type of head gasket should I be looking at then?

che che

[rotorchiki69]

tdo4 is a small turbo and runs outa puff at about 5000 rpm id go for a big 16g tdo5 from an evo3 make good power

[Lloyd]

Seriously, how often do cambelts break? You'll be fine with a genuine one and use the extra cash on a better turbo or something

[Mr Revhead]

yeah "racing" belts are a con


use the 8.9:1 pistons, depending on use the TRD 0.8mm will be fine for turbo. thats whay id use in a street car.

[Ako]

tdo4 is a small turbo and runs outa puff at about 5000 rpm ON A BIGGER ENGINE id go for a big 16g tdo5 from an evo3 make good power FROM ABOUT 4500 ONWARDS

Depends on the driveability you want though. EVLGTZ is the guy to talk to - I think he's tried all the different TD0X options on his 1600 so can give you a good indication of how they all drive.

[EVLGTZ]

Ive only tried a small tdo5h and a larger 16G td05H and both are good in their own ways.

the td04 would reasonably be well suited for a nice lil setup running max of say 14psi but uptop its a lil bit lacking.

The std td05h are very good and not a bad match all round.

However gotta love the top end pull of the 16G.

[TRD001]

cheers interesting ...

[JustinSpiderholden]

I was looking at some aftermarket forged pistons, I was under the impression that the 0.8 mm were no good for turbo application, The TODA belt is $60 more than original plus it's heaps sronger, I also am looking at the link + engine managment.

The engine + gearbox is out of A 1997 5spd carib, So is this a BZ-V?

What type of head gasket should I be looking at then?

che che

also please look at other ecu options as well as link there are alot of options out there now link ar good but for same or simalr money as link plus id persoanlly would be gettins a ems for speed source or even microtech both retialing at around 1450 still hearing to many link horror stories

[Mr Revhead]

link horror stories are not to do with links, more the ppl fitting and tuning them.

when chosing an ecu go with what you can get the best info/help with.
if you have a link supplier next door, then go link
if you live abouve the microtech agents, well go microtech.

ecus are only as good as the tuner/installer

[Al]

I'd go for something a little larger than a td04, even on a 1600. There was a turbo aw11 at the drags here the other night and that was doing low 14s at a whopping 97mph or so.

[Crucible]

yep do the pistons, NOT a thick head gasket.

Good point!, increasing headgasket thickness will only make matters worse wouldnt it?.

A thicker headgasket will decrease the Comp/Ratio, but will also upset Quench which will promote slower combustion which in turn leads to detonation.

TNT