Captive springs

[Mr Revhead]

and they can still jump out if they are too short....

[RS13]

I've run cutties before with no problems. However, I would cut only 1 or 2 coils, not "half a spring" like most DX owners seem to do these days! You have to understand, cutting coils used to be the norm back in the day.. aftermarket springs were $1000+.. fortunately, they're now less than half that.. so really, there is no reason to cut coils anymore.

Man up, get some king/lovell/cobra/tein springs, your car will handle better, look better, and be legal! There are that many brands out there, you'd be a $&#$% moron to still run heinously illegal cutties.. and springs start at around $120 a pair.

[rwd_mayhem]

wat about compressed springs? its cheaper only $60 a pair and is the whole spring.

[Mr Revhead]

same deal if its not captive

[Drifter4ag]

seems like an isolated incident.
I have been running uncaptive springs for about 4years in my track and daily driven car with no isses of springs coming loose .. bouncing around the shock .. jumping off the diff and popping tyres .. it would have to be a major bump to knock your springs out like .. it would require the wheel to travel to maximum droop and then somehow poke the springs with a stick of some description !

[vhpacer]

I cut the springs in my bogan wagon falcon back in the day, but then it came to me, like this im going to get pink stickered sooner or later with the amount of driving I do, which will cost me $400, then I would have had to get it done properly anyway. Kings etc with shocks. So I just spent the money getting them done properly before I got stickered, I think thats the smartest thing to do these days. Ive seen mates get screwed over heavily as a result of cut/compressed springs

TAKE MY ADVICE

[RS13]

Compressed springs aren't that great either, I've personally found them to be no better than cutties, they're soggy as shit, and aren't captive. Why would you do that?

No performance benefit, they only serve to make your car 'look cool' and handle like shit!

[vhpacer]

Is it true that you are legally allowed to weld the spring into the housing?

[Mr Revhead]

lol no your not!

[vhpacer]

lol no your not!

Yeh thats what I thought, I had some coozer in a merc telling me that his cut springs were legal because they were welded in. Still alot safer than un captive springs though.....

[RS13]

Hahaha, I can't say I haven't tried that myself, except it was a $200 rivercar, and they lasted about 3 decent bumps before breaking all the welds.. And, you'd be $&#$% a decent set of shocks in the process..

[TygerTung]

I have had uncaptive springs before, they don't make your car anymore bouncy then captive springs, but they could potentially fall out I guess if you rolled it or somthing, but how often do you do HUGE jumps? Never.

It is definatly better to have captive springs.

Compressed springs are rubbish as they are no stiffer then before, but they are lower, so you'll likely bottom out your suspension all the time.

At least when you chop the springs, they become stifffer, so you have a lower AND stiffer ride.

[Mr Revhead]

ok theres a reason theres laws... not al make sense but in the case of springs they DO!

[wde_bdy]

:roll:

ok theres a reason theres laws... not al make sense but in the case of springs they DO!

You just can't tell some people though, cool looks are always far more important than doing a job properly. And then they bitch and cry about the nasty policeman pink stickering them.

Callum

[ollieboy]

Compressed springs aren't that great either, I've personally found them to be no better than cutties, they're soggy as sh*t, and aren't captive. Why would you do that?

No performance benefit, they only serve to make your car 'look cool' and handle like sh*t!

This is very true, i bought a car with compressed springs, caused huge amounts of torque steer and after a banked corner or railway line it took ages for the car to stop bouncing and straighten up. Almost killed me many times, when I got them replaced the car held the road way better.

[Drifter4ag]

bah ... cutting springs increases the spring rate.. your old shocks are probably not up to it hence the bump and bounce ... get some shocks ...
springs aint gonna fall out unless you got a live axle with two coils and shocks seperate from spring perch so ass draggers dont really need to worry

[RedMist]

bah ... cutting springs increases the spring rate.. your old shocks are probably not up to it hence the bump and bounce ... get some shocks ...
springs aint gonna fall out unless you got a live axle with two coils and shocks seperate from spring perch so ass draggers dont really need to worry

Seriously dude, if your going to risk someones life on your advice I suggest you get a clue.

Cutting springs isn't just going to affect spring rate. It alters the suspension geometry, bump steer, travel, scrub, camber caster toe.

Ever compressed a small spring like that in a pen, then let it go? It never bounces straight up and down! Car springs are somewhat similar, there is deflection if not held in check by being captive! Even if the spring doesn't dislocate to the point where it doesnt evenly load the platform, its shock loading the platform every time it comes off by only a mm or so. Its only a matter of time before the platform or spring fails.

If you are really desperate to lower your car then I suggest you do it properly. Buy yourself susprog 3D, spend a few months learning to use it. Study for several years on suspension geometry. Then alter all your cars pickup points, rack mounts, tie rod length, springs and shocks.

Still by the time you have done that you'll have probably decided that a stock ride height is much better for performance, road holding and safety.

Unless you're on a very flat race track.

[suberimakuri]

cutting springs is sweet.

get stiff and short shocks to suit, we have a guide on our website with some options for this reason.

may want to cut stiffer springs than just factory ones so it's stiffer by a lot more as well as lower.

A spring is a spring.

Bump steer is a fact of life with an old toyota.
Castor is adjustable on the corollas & coronas.

If you're not racing then you're not going to be pushing your car are yah?

choppy chop.

[AE85coupe]

If you are really desperate to lower your car then I suggest you do it properly. Buy yourself susprog 3D, spend a few months learning to use it. Study for several years on suspension geometry. Then alter all your cars pickup points, rack mounts, tie rod length, springs and shocks.

Still by the time you have done that you'll have probably decided that a stock ride height is much better for performance, road holding and safety.

Unless you're on a very flat race track.

or you could just cut them so they are not gonna fall out, then go for a drive and see if the handling is better or worse

oh no my car has cut springs, i'm obviously an evil baby killer, cry me a river

[BZG Wagon]

oh no my car has cut springs, i'm obviously an evil baby killer, cry me a river

Nothing wrong with Captive Cut Springs.

Everything wrong with Uncaptive Cut Springs.