TO4E on GZE

[Kov]

Just pondering, may have found a cheap brand new TO4E and wondering if it would be a little overkill for a GZE? a/r .50 supports upto 450hp

how much lag would I expect running something like this and has anyone used anything similar?

[strx7]

how many RPM can your AGE rev to safely?
build a nice set of extractors before the turbo and you'd spool it

[IH8TEC]

a straight to4e would be pretty laggy, maybe around 5000rpm full boost, tried looking for something with a t3 exhaust and to4e front cover and wheel,

[Akane]

way too big.
Try something like a T28 turbo.

[Ako]

That turbo would be a pain in the ass on 2L, let alone a 1600 4cyl.

Just how much power are you actually aiming for??

[strx7]

T04E is a compressor wheel, if it was mated with say an O trim 0.50A/R exhuast it would spool.

[Kov]

aiming for 250-300hp, am looking for something that will get full boost around 3500 and hopefully carry it right through to redline. Was previously looking at TD05H but havn't been able to find a decent one without contacting mitsubishi yet, so am considering other options.

Other idea was T3/T4 hybrid which obviously has been done before, what kind of revs would a combination like this hit full boost and what kind of hp could it handle?
(spose there's too many variations of T3/T4 to say really huh)

any help much appreciated!

[evil_si]

T04e doesnt mean shit. there is over 1000 differnt turbos in that category.

the sizes, and a/r's will tell you what it is.

[Crucible]

T04E is a compressor wheel, if it was mated with say an O trim 0.50A/R exhuast it would spool.

yah sure?....I thought T04E, T04B etc is refering to the Compressor housing?

TNT

[Crucible]

Other idea was T3/T4 hybrid which obviously has been done before, what kind of revs would a combination like this hit full boost and what kind of hp could it handle?
(spose there's too many variations of T3/T4 to say really huh)

any help much appreciated!

Im going down this road as I want good top end power. Using a T3/T04E VBAND "O" TRIM .70a/r Div/Tang. (550 Hp Turbo). Its on a Custom Split Pulse Mani, This had been modeled directley off Bazdas Setup, He saw Full boost at 4800rpm on a low comp ze, Hopefully Ill see approx 4300 - 4500 on my Hi comp ze. I realise I will need to upgrade ECU, injectors etc to get the full potential out of this Turbo but will be only running relatively low boost until then.

Bazda says the Top end power is awesome, and this turbo was putting him in the 12's down the 1/4 so he cant be Far wrong.

TNT

[Bazda]

Other idea was T3/T4 hybrid which obviously has been done before, what kind of revs would a combination like this hit full boost and what kind of hp could it handle?
(spose there's too many variations of T3/T4 to say really huh)

any help much appreciated!

Im going down this road as I want good top end power. Using a T3/T04E VBAND "O" TRIM .70a/r Div/Tang. (550 Hp Turbo). Its on a Custom Split Pulse Mani, This had been modeled directley off Bazdas Setup, He saw Full boost at 4800rpm on a low comp ze, Hopefully Ill see approx 4300 - 4500 on my Hi comp ze. I realise I will need to upgrade ECU, injectors etc to get the full potential out of this Turbo but will be only running relatively low boost until then.

Bazda says the Top end power from this setup is awesome

TNT

danm right

If you want full boost by 3500 then a little t3 will do you fine with a a/r of around 0.4 ish.
Just like IH8TEC he runs a t3 and thats when he hits full boost.

And yes there are thousands of different sizes of to4e etc and thats the cover type not the comp wheel.

[vvega]

e /b /s also refers to the blade pitch and design ...(trim)

b is basically a crapper

e is not so bad

s is where its at

v

[Kov]

Would a basic T3/T4 a/r .40 non ballbearing be able to hold boost right up to about 7Krpm?
Just looking for some ballpark figures here. To be more helpful, what measurements of said combo would I need to give you guys for more accurate answers?

[strx7]

a T28 from a GTiR will get you your target HP, if you want a bit of room to spare on the compressor side of things get a slightly larger compressor wheel on it
a mate has a stock T28 on an AW11 AGZE in an AE93 and its getting boost at 2800rpm

[dash]

a straight t3 with a 0.48 exhaust housing is a very good street turbo.
60trim is the better, more powerful of the factory offerings.
They're nexpensive/common at wreckers (here at least) and most wind up on 1.6 and 1.8L projects.
Upgrading to any of the t04b or t04e compressors are the route to go for higher power. Correct sizing for your goal is most important.... there's nothing 'bad' about any particular e or b wheel. All work well.

I've not seen any turbo that can match an evoIII 16g in response vs output vs price. Period.
Sold for $460usd brand new, wastegate included.
Has dyno'd 410+ whp and a whopping 430 ft-lbs torque at the wheels!! on a 2L mitsu 4g63.... propelling heavy street cars to mid 11sec 1/4s.
Several have run occasionally 30+psi on them, and the dam thing lives!

I'll build/try out 3 different manifold/turbo for my street 4agte;
evoIII 16g, ~340whp t28 hybrid and a 'small ~375hp t3/t4
No problem selling whichever two I won't keep. 4agte still popular. Ultimately I'll wind up with a 7AGte

[vvega]

dribble dribble
lol

[Bazda]

dribble dribble
lol

Just buy a turbo from me and you will be set for 12s passes on a standard ecu and standard engine, end of story

[Adamal]

a T28 from a GTiR will get you your target HP

Are you sure about that? He said he's looking for 250-300hp, and the GTi-R isn't 250hp stock and the SR20 is a 2 litre..... The S15 uses a BB T28 (almost the same as the GTi-R one) and makes 250hp stock... But again, is the same SR20.

We're talking about an engine that's 400cc smaller as well... You'd have to seriously work the engine to pump the boost up to make that sort of power with that turbo, wouldn't you?

[Stu-]

Got a .60 to4e on mine, sitting in whats left of a milled out .48 t3 housing. Full boost around 4400.

[matt dunn]

Are you sure about that? He said he's looking for 250-300hp, and the GTi-R isn't 250hp stock and the SR20 is a 2 litre..... The S15 uses a BB T28 (almost the same as the GTi-R one) and makes 250hp stock... But again, is the same SR20.

We're talking about an engine that's 400cc smaller as well... You'd have to seriously work the engine to pump the boost up to make that sort of power with that turbo, wouldn't you?

I ran a S15 non BB T28 to make 280hp at the wheels on my 20V.
That is pretty much maxed out at 18psi. ( turbo wont blow more than that)

Just had it hybrided with GTiR exh wheel and custom compressor wheel and heading back to the dyno in 2 weeks.