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Postby Levin » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:09 pm

RS13 wrote:
Levin wrote:I'm 17 with a ST185 GT Four, I'm insured with state insurance (third party, but its soon to be third party with theft and fire, as soon as i get an alarm). And it costs about $220 a year.


I don't think so. I liase with State regularly, they wouldn't even insure me when I was 18 for a KP60 starlet with tridents. I had a full, clean licence too.


Do you mean that you dont think i can get fire and theft? Because they have already said yes :) all I need to do is install the alarm.....
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Postby Victoria » Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:27 pm

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Victoria wrote:Is anyone here under 25 with a quite modified car (body kit, lowered and rims) who can still get insurance?

AMI and state both refuse to insure me at all (even through my mother) because i have more than 20% modifications on my car (just mags atm).. I am looking at getting a body kit put on soon and getting my car lowered.. i dont know what im going to do about insurance.

Toyspeed should start an insurance company! :lol:


My insurance company didn't care about mags, bodykit, lowering, tints or stereo.. but went through a broker who deals with AMP and Vero instead of dealing with the insurance company directly..mind you I don't think it adds up to 20% value of the car


My car cost me 4500$ my mags and tyres cost me 1800$.. so my mags and tyres are 40% (??? correct me if im wrong.. im shocking at math) of my cars value.. so only way i could get any kind of insurance through state for my mags, is to only insure the mags with out the tyres...
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Postby MasCam » Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:03 am

We had a similar thing with State with our old primera. We did lots of little things and listed them all with the company because thts what your supossed to do i.e. put in a CD player because it didn't have one, replace factory speakers because they are dead. etc etc. Then we said we will be putting new wheels on, the reply was "in that case we won't insure you because it is over XX percent of the cars value.

So we asked if we could take off some of the things that weren't really mods... NO.

So we asked if our $8000 primera was parked in thier car park with $800 wheels and a stereo next to an HSV with $5000 wheels then they would insure the HSV and not us... Yes sir that is correct.... WHY... Because that is what it says here!!

So we went to Farmers Mutual (we only had contents as our other insurance at the time) and they said FINE we have no problems with that. We get our own broker who we always deal with and they are great.

One of the best things is they are used to dealing with "I just rolled my half million dollar supertractor over a cliff and it exploded" or "Hi we just had a enormous flood and it wiped out everything and when your finished talking with me my 16 neighbours want a word cos ther is only one phone working"
so when my friend who is also with them rings and says "Um .. I was looking at my burger king burger and when I looked up everyone had stoped but me!! I sort of caused a bit of a shunt train." He gets asked by the operator "so how many other cars were damaged" to which he replies "three".

The reply to this....

"Gees thats a good effort" and laughter on the end of the phone, they also let him upgrade to a different bumper for the difference in cost.

Anyway we rang state to tell them that we wanted to cancel our insurance and they said "fine" but don't you want to know why? "No"
Its because your policies suck and we will never insure with you again and tell everyone we meet to avoid you as well. "thats nice goodbye"

How do these people have any clients left??
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Postby SnakeEyes » Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:31 am

BlakJak wrote:I swear its like groundhog day!

If you can't get insurance anywhere else, go to National Auto Club...


- I've had bad times with NAC. 2 excesses when you prang your car is no laughing matter :?

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Postby BlakJak » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:43 pm

Been there done that, nearly had a T-shirt printed...

Thats the policy, take it or leave it. (Or dont buy such a hard-to-insure car as a young person!!)

When I bought my first Celica I had to try 6 insurance companies before one would even say yes - and that was NAC - so you take your chances. I pranged that car, paid my 2 times $1200 excesses, and moved on....

I'm now 25 and have gone for an extended period without any claims, my premiums have dropped... you just need to bide your time ...
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Postby Victoria » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:47 pm

Can anyone explane to me how a toyota trueno (1600cc) is a 'high performance vehicle' according to insurance companies???
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Postby Dragger_Dan » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:21 pm

Talk to NAC, they have recently changed their way they work their excesses, so you don't have to pay for two.
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Postby Jazza » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:36 pm

17, drive a Curren, and i got full insurance with AA costing about 700 a year. Althought im "secondary driver" my mum is primary
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Postby Boosted_162 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:30 am

My old ST185, me 16 on restricted and it being modded was $300ish a year 3rd party theft and fire :? We think the broker did it through my parents... My Detomaso was $1300 a year full (ouch!), on restricted, stereo, lowering, exhaust and insured for over $7k. Thats also with no history, so will go down next year with addition of no claims plus full licence :D

The new ST185 will be VERY interesting to insure.... :?
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Postby DB4G63 » Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:17 am

I picked a 93 GTZ with alloys, slightly lowered and tints for my last car, got it like 3ish weeks ago.

Rung AMI and told them it was supercharged (from the factory), said I was worried they were going to ping me if I ever had to claim (bonzai supercharger!!). They said no probs, superchargers arent as much of a concern to them as turbos are. A mate of mine reckoned it was a safe bet if I wanted to stay insured...sweet!
Im guessing since there are bugger all superchargered factory cars on the road in NZ, insurance companies arent too worried yet...

$52 a month full cover for $5K, glass buy out etc...with alarm... :D
(50% no claims tho :roll: ) 500 bucks excess if within 100m of my house ( which it is...)

Tried to insure a VR4 about 6 months ago, AMI told me to 'not a chance'...

Im sticking with the S/C thanks....
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Postby gurutasker » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:56 am

Victoria wrote:Can anyone explane to me how a toyota trueno (1600cc) is a 'high performance vehicle' according to insurance companies???


It's not necessarily a high-performance vehicle, but a high-risk vehicle. Especially for theft, and when you start modifying a car.. it becomes even more of a target for theft. :(
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Postby Levin » Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:01 pm

Yeah my old Levin(20v :)) was classed as high theft risk too.......
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Postby peas » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:38 pm

What I have found is that where you are is as importanat as what you are and what you drive! Auckland sux for insurance, Im 25 half way thru this year and will be listing what I want out of a policy and doing the rounds again.

Standard ST185 = $320ish with NZI
Modded GT-Z = Not insurable with them even though I had the two Celicas with them for some 4-5 years. You would think that after that period with no claims you'd have built up some sort of loyalty but no... Im just another under 25 year old.

Insurers are pathetic but unfortunatley necessary.
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Postby Pelo » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:05 pm

I rang EVERY insurance company in the yellow pages, and I am paying $745 p.a. with NAC, through AON, insured for $3500.
Most insane quote goes to ANZ, the bank I have been loyal to for 20 years, $2500 p.a.!!!!!!!! 8O
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Postby mr30%jr » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:37 pm

after hearing that....

you cant stick it up ur... :idea:
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Postby Norty » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:47 pm

Before i was 25 i was paying about $800-$1000 per year for full cover via a broker using random insurance companies like Circle (State devision). Now i am over 25 i am only paying about $752 per year full cover with Tower but excess is less, My car is a 1993 GTZ levin lowered, chromes tints sounds etc insuranced for $8000 , The older prices where for $12000
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Postby Inane » Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:16 pm

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Postby no_8wire » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:03 pm

What insurance company are you with! 8O
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Postby GGnz » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:11 pm

Im with National Auto Club. They seem alright. I paid $1300 for my first year but due to drop to $100 next year.
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Postby GGnz » Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:13 pm

Also only like $50-80 diff if its a turboed car as opposed to non-turbo (i.e. Celica GTR vs Celica GT4).

I also like how you pay the full year within the first six months leaving you $ to mod your car in the other six months
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