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Postby jeda teach » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:47 am

Silent Knight wrote:
barryogen wrote:anyone notice the change in thread title? wasn't about him building a ute, not his mate?


Yep, maybe he wants to make his 'imaginary' friend look stupid instead of himself.


Who looks stupid ? Why is everyone so negitive. So what if the ute idea cant be done, i only came on here asking for help.
All i get is shit, ok a few people were helpfull, but most of you look like f##kin idiots. Its a shame really, but then when i think about it, its only a forum, a place for nerds with no lives to hang out
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Postby strx7 » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:51 am

IH8TEC wrote:pretty sure that was 32k USD wasn't it?


$32NZ + freight

you can buy a 8 second short block with forged rods, pistons, billet steel main caps, all balanced etc for $7K US
a prepped head is around $4K US add camshafts of your choice and you're nearly there.
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Postby strx7 » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:54 am

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mad as engine which will handle 10000rpm



for a 2j to pull those numbers is insane,

im assuming that the kit uses the JUN stroker kit to help make that sort of power.


Nope, 3 litre factory crank balanced etc with billet steel main caps will enable 10000rpm, guys have used 9K with std main caps. If you actually spend a number of hours doing some research you'll be amazed at what these engines can do
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Postby strx7 » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:55 am

Silent Knight wrote:
Si wrote:
mad as engine which will handle 10000rpm



for a 2j to pull those numbers is insane,

im assuming that the kit uses the JUN stroker kit to help make that sort of power.


Ummm...yea I want to know as well. Where exactly does the 10 000rpm figures come from? :?

Even with a big stroker kit etc I have my doubts about the 2JZ revving out to 10K rpm and still be within it's powerband...


why on earth do people think a stroker kit is used to pull revs? do you not comprehend what stroking is? longer stroke mean LESS RPM, not more. a stroker kit isn't required to make HUGE HP from these engines.
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Postby Silent Knight » Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:59 am

jeda teach wrote:, its only a forum, a place for nerds with no lives to hang out


You must be one of them nerds then ay. Since you are posting on and reading forums etc. :wink:

I was referring to the dumbness of trying to make a 9s Ute on a budget and not wanting to spend any money on transmission work nor wanting to open the engine to do some real work it...
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Postby Silent Knight » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:06 am

strx7 wrote:why on earth do people think a stroker kit is used to pull revs? do you not comprehend what stroking is? longer stroke mean LESS RPM, not more. a stroker kit isn't required to make HUGE HP from these engines.


I was under the impression from what I've heard and seen from some of the 2JZ boyz in the states that a stroker kit with some cams will allow you pump out a bit of extra revs.

I know stroker does not primarily give you your revs given that, that's exactly what happens with the 1 vs 2JZ. 2JZ has bigger/longer bores and as such can't rev out as much as the 1JZ can.

It's just very interesting to hear about a 2JZ revving out to 10K as I've never heard of one doing so, with whatever amount of work done to it.

Do you have a link to maybe a write up of the engine built or a site to the place that built the 2J that revs out that much by any chance strx7? I'd be very interested to do a bit of reading up on that to see what exactly has been done to the motor. 8)
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Postby barryogen » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:44 am

Silent Knight wrote:
barryogen wrote:anyone notice the change in thread title? wasn't about him building a ute, not his mate?


Yep, maybe he wants to make his 'imaginary' friend look stupid instead of himself.


thanks, thought I was losing it there for a while...
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Postby FrEsH » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:02 am

rofl, if this is the guy from import X again he really needs to get realistic (i read AND laughed a lot about his honda ideas) ... he really does have no clue....now this....sigh
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Postby Leon » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:04 pm

jeda teach wrote:when i think about it, its only a forum, a place for nerds with no lives to hang out


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Postby strx7 » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:14 pm

Silent Knight wrote:
strx7 wrote:why on earth do people think a stroker kit is used to pull revs? do you not comprehend what stroking is? longer stroke mean LESS RPM, not more. a stroker kit isn't required to make HUGE HP from these engines.


I was under the impression from what I've heard and seen from some of the 2JZ boyz in the states that a stroker kit with some cams will allow you pump out a bit of extra revs.

I know stroker does not primarily give you your revs given that, that's exactly what happens with the 1 vs 2JZ. 2JZ has bigger/longer bores and as such can't rev out as much as the 1JZ can.

It's just very interesting to hear about a 2JZ revving out to 10K as I've never heard of one doing so, with whatever amount of work done to it.

Do you have a link to maybe a write up of the engine built or a site to the place that built the 2J that revs out that much by any chance strx7? I'd be very interested to do a bit of reading up on that to see what exactly has been done to the motor. 8)


I'll hunt out the stuff tonight and PM you with it
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Postby Dragger_Dan » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:49 pm

strx7 wrote:
IH8TEC wrote:pretty sure that was 32k USD wasn't it?


$32NZ + freight

you can buy a 8 second short block with forged rods, pistons, billet steel main caps, all balanced etc for $7K US
a prepped head is around $4K US add camshafts of your choice and you're nearly there.


Yeah, and then you just need the vehicle for it to go in, and the rest of the drivetrain :roll:
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Postby strx7 » Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:31 pm

that is true, however, compare the $$$ per HP compared to a V8 sprint sprint car engine or similar and you'll see its cheap by comparison
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Postby FrEsH » Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:02 pm

purple_beasty wrote:
FrEsH wrote:rofl, if this is the guy from import X again he really needs to get realistic (i read AND laughed a lot about his honda ideas) ... he really does have no clue....now this....sigh


A few people said the same thing about the 1UZ AE85 and that happened. A RWD Honda is not that crazy or unrealistic, you just need to know what you are doing and get stuck in. Based on pics I've seen there are no problems in either of those areas.

Callum


you misunderstand me, i wasnt' laughing at the idea of a RWD honda, i was luaghing at hte way he proposed to do it and at his expectations, and his total disregard of knowledgable peoples opinions on it :wink:
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Postby Malcolm » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:15 pm

I think the big problem is he talks about things as being his idea, or something he's doing, but then says it's for a mate or something. So question is, are you gadget from whatever that workshop is that was on import x, or do you just like to pretend that his work is yours (re: the v8 ae85 thread)
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Postby Si » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:31 pm

why on earth do people think a stroker kit is used to pull revs? do you not comprehend what stroking is? longer stroke mean LESS RPM, not more. a stroker kit isn't required to make HUGE HP from these engines


i didnot get the impression he thought the stroker kit was used to pull more revs.

the point i got was a stroker kit, reving to the same RPM as a non stroker engine, will have a faster internal piston speed, and harsher loads.

I'll hunt out the stuff tonight and PM you with it


Maybe make a new thread with it, im sure theres a few of us who enjoy *JZ info 8)
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Postby narlystarly » Fri Mar 17, 2006 1:01 pm

Im pretty sure its GADGET, aka andrew smith, aka has bling workshop, helped build 1uz ae86, also his own 1uz crammed in a mx5, tubbed r100 drag car in the build, tubbed cosmo 20b turb etc etc. Its hilarious if it is him how everyone did the n00b thing on him lol. classic stuff andrew.
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Postby soopachargen » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:34 pm

if gadget knows enough to have done all this stuff i highly doubt its him thats been posting... the reason he was treated like a n00b is coz of all the n00b stuff he's posted in this thread and the one on Import X.
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Postby Mr XXX » Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:48 pm

deaf_rattle wrote:
mikuni wrote:I hope your meaning 2JZ-GTE and not dirty old 7M-GTE??


whats wrong with the 7mgte?


Haha, of everything I have read on this whole lot, this, this right here, must be the funneist thing I have read....

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Postby Brick » Fri Mar 17, 2006 6:49 pm

hahaha i see he has changed the title to "my mate", and in the txt it says wat he wants to do :wink: :lol:
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