Honda CRX

[Zyros]

Okay guys nd gals, i want your honest opinion

The FXGT has being given up on haha, hopefully if all goes well it will be picked up tommorow.

Now, im very interested in getting a decent Levin/Trueno GT Apex, around the 91 year but ive struggled to find one manual and low km's..

So, ive being looking at CRX's (Not a fan of honda's though)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... key=176170

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing ... key=176170

These are the two ive being looking at.
In your opinion what would you choose?

Ive heard honda's arent as cheap for parts as toyotas though.. the FX use to be great for getting parts.. Cheap!
Also theres this rust issue which is common in hondas and i dont know if its true but apparantly the structure of CRX's arent too good.
They crumble easily.

Whats your honest opinions..

[FXGTV]

The day before i bought my gtv i took a crx for a test drive and must admit i was impressed by its speed, but that was about it. Theyre small (im 6 ft 2) and i could barely fit my knees in, theyre death traps, and people will think your a homo for owning a honda
The best decision i ever made car-wise was not to buy that crx and get my fx instead.

[Ae92typeX]

...i was impressed by its speed, but that was about it. Theyre small (im 6 ft 2) and i could barely fit my knees in, theyre death traps...

Yeah, I'd say mechanically, sure, a decent vehicle. But yeah, death traps and even honda owners may question the style...

[DJ]

More room in a MR2 than in one of those.

The VTEC's are pretty dam fast since theyre so small, but yeah, hit a pebble and it's roll over and explode.

[postfach]

i used to have one, im 6ft and fit in it fine with the seat the whole way back, also had a fairly high speed accident in it and all i did was push the guard in and bend all the suspension on one side...was fun to drive and good for daily driving too, fairly efficient

[Ako]

Wrong place to ask this.

Its a toyota forum - where a bunch of guys driving FX-GT's (itself a car of questionable heterosexuality) will tell you the honda sounds like crap and will fold in an accident.

My advice: Drive one. You'll be surprised and understand all the hoo-ahh about the B16 in a lightweight car.

If worried about accidents, do a web search for their crash ratings. OLD hondas, sure, but anything late 80's onwards have these things called standards to adhere to. If they really did fold up, they wouldn't have been sold.

Though personally I'd be getting an early 90's SiR civic instead, same car really but slightly more acceptable to the majority.

I find in practise that 2 seaters tend to have MORE driver legroom than 4 doors! My MR2 had more room than my VR4 does, ditto for a 4 door vs 2 door skiyline etc.

[Zyros]

i used to have one, im 6ft and fit in it fine with the seat the whole way back, also had a fairly high speed accident in it and all i did was push the guard in and bend all the suspension on one side...was fun to drive and good for daily driving too, fairly efficient

Im going on a road trip in a month, so... it cant fit 4 people in really?

[postfach]

Im going on a road trip in a month, so... it cant fit 4 people in really?

Depends how big the people are...I had 4 in mine on several occasions, usually put the girls in the back cos they are smaller, obviously smallest behind the driver, wasn't too bad but i guess it depends how long your trip is. the roof is quite low in the back so whoever sits there shouldn't be too tall, anything under 5ft 5 should be fine tho. If you test drive one maybe take a few people with you and see how they feel sitting in the back?

[postfach]

I find in practise that 2 seaters tend to have MORE driver legroom than 4 doors!

it does have a lot of leg room, i could move the seat forward and still be comfortable driving, i just prefered maximum legroom when possible. theres quite a bit of space on the passenger side obviously because there are no pedals, so that seat can be quite a bit further forward than driver and still be comfortable

[RS13]

They get the bad rep from the preceding models, which were supposedly made mostly from aluminium, with plastic guards, etc. I remember once when we were parked up in town, I sat on the front of my mates' gen1 CRX.. and it cracked apart and fell off! I wasn't popular right then.. I think he superglued it back up! That, and reliability/rust problems, especially the carb versions. The gen1 Si CRX's are pretty fast with little mods!

They're awesome wee cars to drive though, cheap as to modify suspension and motor, with turbo kits/angry n/a bits all over trademe etc. The SiR Vtec CRX's are almost impossible to find tidy, most have been raped! The 1990ish Si models are everywhere fortunately, and with bugger all weight, and with the 130hp ZC motor, they're pretty damn fast, just gotta watch for rust, and try not to get the moon-roof models, they're expensive to fix if you need new windows, and I wouldn't want to roll one with all that glass!

Even with a basic, rangi'd up turbo kit, 13sec 1/4s aren't too hard. I'd buy one, but as those above said, even though they have 4 seats, they're pretty much only a 2-seater.

[B1NZ]

also had a fairly high speed accident in it and all i did was push the guard in and bend all the suspension on one side

Did you hit a Moth or a bird?

Also the gearboxes seem to lose gears once they have been raped a bit, All going well though they do go well Reliable engines and one level about any Toyota 1.6L

[Zyros]

Ohh i see, everyone thinks there ugly!
But personally i think it looks alright, but i am a 'peoples' person in opinions. I have to have a car they also like.. its weird haha.

What you guys think for looks?
And do you also think i will be able to get a Levin / Trueno, 90 - 91 GT Apex.. for around the 2.6G mark?

[RS13]

Yeah, I've owned a handful of Hondas, had to replace a few gearboxes, CV's, the motors are brilliant but the drivelines are crap! If you test drive one, drive round in 3rd gear a lot, in my experience they're the first gear to start jumping back at you. ZC gearboxes are a dime a dozen, but if you get an SiR with factory LSD, you're looking at $1500 minimum to replace it.

Come to think about it, I'd much rather have an EF3 (1988 to 1991 Si Civic) too, I've owned one before, they've got the same ZC powerplant, (although its' a blacktop over the earlier ZC olivetop) and are similar weight, about 950kg from memory. Handled mint, cheap to run, and IMO look awesome with big wheels stuffed under the guards!

[RS13]

So, ive being looking at CRX's (Not a fan of honda's though)

Most people who say that, have never actually owned a VTEC, let alone a Honda. If you had a Type R Integra for a day, you'd never want to give it back!

And do you also think i will be able to get a Levin / Trueno, 90 - 91 GT Apex.. for around the 2.6G mark?

Yeah, but it would be either auto, or have over 200,000km. I'd much rather have an EF3, although AE101s have nice interiors.

If I were you, I'd weight up what I really want in a car, make a list of pros and cons, and work from there. I think the CRXs that you're looking at are more comparable to AE92s, being from around the same time. An EG Civic is more comparable to an AE101, but most people don't like the look of them!

[snwtoy]

To give you some idea of value, I just picked up a 94 Detomaso charade in very tidy condition for 2.3k from tande.co.nz. I would say those too are a tad overpriced.

[postfach]

Did you hit a Moth or a bird?

rofl a transformer and a tree

[Zyros]

Yeah, im keen to possibly get one.

Looking at the links in my first post which would you recommend.
Only problem with going Honda is no toyspeed
Have to be hondaNZ or whatever

[Ae92typeX]

Yeah, im keen to possibly get one.

Looking at the links in my first post which would you recommend.
Only problem with going Honda is no toyspeed
Have to be hondaNZ or whatever

I'd probably go for the first one, in black...however, I would want to have a look at the engine etc myself. I dont always trust people who say a mate who is a mechanic reconditioned the engine. show me the reciepts!
Im in disagreement about the comfort of 4 people in a crx on long journeys. seats are not the best, rear leg room not great and the roof height is annoying for anyone not really short.but thats just my experience and opinion.

crash rating wise, of corse they passed the then laws, but the are not particularly safe...but we are talking about a small sports car, small cars never come accross well in tests (well, very rarely)

If I was going honda of that age, I'd probaby go civic. Overall, Honda's are really good cars, and if its all in good nick you will like it.

[RomanV]

As much as I hate the styling of them, I have to say that they can be great little cars.

I drove an SIR one, it went okay.
Nothing amazing though to be honest, felt incredibly flat compared to my MR2. (Considering they are supposed to have the same HP, and the CRX is undoubtably a bit lighter)
However it was riced out pretty hard, and probably weight two tonnes with all of the crap that was in/on it.

Why buy a light weight hatch, to weigh it down with useless crap like LCD screens?

But I digress

Yep I think the SIR is okay.
I'd definitely take one over an AE92 if I had the choice.

[Zitchu]

I say keep lookin for the toyota i got a 91 Levin in good cond not too long ago. Manual with 95000kms. $4000