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4agte intercooler piping - price and advice

Postby ants_ae92 » Wed May 24, 2006 11:48 am

Hey guys,

Have tried searching and found hardly anything.

I have an ae92 4age levin, going for a bolt on td04 running 5-6 psi, and I will need intercooler piping soon. Any great places in auckland, or west auckland for piping. I know I will have to go get some mandrel bends, but how many? What do they cost? and where is a good place to get them? Looking at 2inch from turbo to intercooler to TB. What material to use, mild, alloy, obviously stainless will be the most expensive?

How much have you guys paid for your setup?

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Postby 20v_rollaboy » Wed May 24, 2006 1:08 pm

Use alloy. Try a place called Ullrich Aluminium. They sell straight pipe and bends. Then you just need to buy some joiners and clamps.
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Postby crnkin » Wed May 24, 2006 3:30 pm

I use mild steel from pitstop. I bought the bends off them. Took 2 bends all up at 18 bucks each, so 36 bucks, then i just bought some silicon joiners off trademe, at 16 bucks each, only needed 3, used a hacksaw and 30 mins later had my intercooler plumbed up.

Alloy is better as its heat disipation qualities are much better, but hey i just like my car going PSH
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Postby ants_ae92 » Wed May 24, 2006 3:47 pm

Do pitstop do mandrel bends? Pretty cheap for the bends, but yours is rwd? Meaning cheap intercooler piping, mine=FWD which = more piping.

Anyone else with an ae92 setup, what did you guys do?
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Postby Caveman » Wed May 24, 2006 5:58 pm

Hopefully evil_si is going to do mine. He told me he uses aluminum.

S/S welded seam mandrel elbows are around $75 a bend from mico metals in penrose. I got them for $25 at trade price, make sure you get trade price!
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Postby crnkin » Wed May 24, 2006 6:14 pm

theres sweet fucck all difference between a fwd set up and a rwd setup.... But yes, i did it fairly efficiently and the front mount has bout outlets on the same side (stock 4agze), so youd think a longer one with opposing outlets would take even less material
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Postby Lloyd » Wed May 24, 2006 6:45 pm

RWD is cheaper and shorter piping obviously. The outlets on different or same ends depends entirely on the setup. With them on the same end its going to make getting piping through a lot tighter.

I ended up with a VR4 cooler and hacking up redtop inlet manifold to make it around the RWD way for the AE92 purely for piping purposes. Just made things easier. Pic below is with the 20V head on, but it still using all the original piping from the 16V turbo

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As you can see, the inlet to the cooler is on the passengers side. I think most with the setup would put it around the other way, but depends how you're going on the inlet side of things and how much room you have
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Postby Bazda » Wed May 24, 2006 6:56 pm

ok I wouldnt use mild steel unless you get it coated inside and out as you dont want rust going into ur engine.

Also Stainless steel costing that much...$75 a bend! Tube bending does 304 stainless in all sorts of angles for $30 a bend in 2.5" , alloy is $25 a bend in 2.5", obviously 2" will be cheaper.

The bends I used on my car was 5x 90s, 1x 45. Cut it up my self and got actiondan to weld it, Evil si did the eng bay part which was alloy the rest was stainless.
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Postby ants_ae92 » Wed May 24, 2006 8:34 pm

So alloy will be fine, or stainless, where abouts is the tube bending place you speak of? On the shore?

Not a bad price for the bends in stainless, looks like I'll have to get in touch with them. Whats their details?

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Postby Bazda » Wed May 24, 2006 8:36 pm

ants_ae92 wrote:So alloy will be fine, or stainless, where abouts is the tube bending place you speak of? On the shore?

Not a bad price for the bends in stainless, looks like I'll have to get in touch with them. Whats their details?

Thanks for the help guys


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Postby ants_ae92 » Wed May 24, 2006 8:42 pm

Thanks Bazda, when do you wind your baby up properly?
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Postby Caveman » Wed May 24, 2006 8:48 pm

Its been about a year since I needed stainless bends :lol: but im pretty sure they said $75. $25 is a very good price.

The stuff at mico is 2mm wall, pretty much indestrucable. Maybe a bit overkill on IC pipe.
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Postby ants_ae92 » Wed May 24, 2006 8:55 pm

Hopefully prices have come down since then, $25 sounds very cheap, maybe you should look them up too
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Postby evil_si » Wed May 24, 2006 9:01 pm

tube bending in east tamaki,
i use them, good guys to deal with

$75 for a stainless bend is a bit over priced, :roll: get 3 for that.

dont use ullrich alloy, they theiving fuc*s, and there sizes seem to differ to everyone elses.
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Postby ants_ae92 » Wed May 24, 2006 10:59 pm

Sweet good to get reccomendations, will look them up
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Postby escortman » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:06 pm

sorry to steal this
has anyone got pics of intercooler piping for a ae82 jus looking for ideas where to mount the ic, i removed the ac radiator so was thinkin of filling that gap its 740x250x140
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Postby Stu- » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:35 pm

evil_si wrote:tube bending in east tamaki,
i use them, good guys to deal with

$75 for a stainless bend is a bit over priced, :roll: get 3 for that.

dont use ullrich alloy, they theiving fuc*s, and there sizes seem to differ to everyone elses.


Agreed on all counts. My stainless 2.5 inch bends were just under $20 each. And as for Ullirch, we use them at work and are one of their biggest customers, and I definitly recommend Nalco over them anyday. Its a wonder to me how such a badly organised and run company stays in business.

Stainless is nice to work with too.
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Postby THA SHZ » Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:27 am

escortman wrote:sorry to steal this
has anyone got pics of intercooler piping for a ae82 jus looking for ideas where to mount the ic, i removed the ac radiator so was thinkin of filling that gap its 740x250x140
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havent got ne fotos of mine ,but i have mine mounted in the front and made a hole in the front radiator support panel to take mine thru ,not the shortest path , but looks very good 8)
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Postby escortman » Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:28 pm

spose u cudnt take a quik pic or tell me whr teh support panel is i was htinking of drilling a hole but dont wanna drill thru the chassis
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Postby peas » Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:08 pm

I just fitted a 500x230x75 intercooler in my AE92 Levin. No aircon and minimal modification (if you want to call grinding modding) to the bumper. Externally it looks factory and there are two holes below the headlights where the aircon piping used to pass through. They are roughly two inch so need minimal modification (read grinding!) to get it sorted. Got my 90 deg 2.5 to 2" reducers ordered and should be mint... I ran a strip of ally between the lower bumper mount bolts on the mounting brackets with a 80mm drop in it and it fitted perfectly.

Just waiting on the turbo manifold...

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