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Postby TRDmod » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:44 pm

Hi trying to decide the type of spoiler
should i get the gtfour spoiler - u konw the one on raised blocks...

or should i go for a carbon fibre gt wing

the gt wing i think looks more racy... but obviously the gtfour one is design for the 205.

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this one i had in mind

which one do you think would be better for actualy aerodynamic downforce?
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Postby RomanV » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:12 am

I recall GT420 saying that the gt4 ST205 wing produced something like 40kgs of downforce at 120kph. 8)

I'd say you'd probably get similar if not better results with a GT wing, but many people will call you a ricer.
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ok

Postby TRDmod » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:35 am

thats what i thought the gt wing looks pretty good, i mea you get those flimsy ones that look like they are malnourished.. but this one looks beef
if it does the same thing, ricer or not, who cares....
if it gives that kinda down force, then thats all good...
thanks
anymore info is good
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Postby GT4 20 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:44 am

RomanV wrote:I recall GT420 saying that the gt4 ST205 wing produced something like 40kgs of downforce at 120kph. 8)


50kg @ 100km/h :D

If you want performance, then stick with the OEM wing, otherwise go for some added rice :wink:
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Postby dougsop » Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:43 am

there is a guy selling a GT4 wing for 450 on trademe.
i know that he is happy to take 420 cash :P

i was going to get it, but consider the price.... i might as well leave it for now and work on something else :D
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yes but i want the added rice

Postby TRDmod » Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:02 pm

i want added rice:D
so, if i get the gt wing, would that also have similar effect?
if not 100% at least similar. some have said in other forums and opinions that the gt wing would be more effective but some said the same

whats ur gys op on that
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Re: yes but i want the added rice

Postby solitaire » Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:58 pm

TRDmod wrote:i want added rice:D
so, if i get the gt wing, would that also have similar effect?
if not 100% at least similar. some have said in other forums and opinions that the gt wing would be more effective but some said the same

whats ur gys op on that


Dude buy the gt wing... and a honda civic so you have something to mount it on :lol:

the GT Four get my vote for a toyota!
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Postby wde_bdy » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:07 pm

The GT4 wing is tested and proven by Toyota, the GT wing works in theory but how are you going to accurately adjust it to suit the flow of air over the Celica body? Proven performance owns rice style guess work any day.

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Postby GT4 20 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:37 pm

Toyota would have developed the wing properly to ensure it actually worked - hence why it was used on their WRC cars. If you get an aftermarket wing and simply guess at how it should be set up, you are more than likely going to end up with increased drag which will = increased fuel consumption and more than likely, a decrease in downforce.
Unless you ahve proper tesying facilities, stick with what the experts have done IMHO.
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Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:09 pm

GT4 20 wrote:
RomanV wrote:I recall GT420 saying that the gt4 ST205 wing produced something like 40kgs of downforce at 120kph. 8)


50kg @ 100km/h :D

If you want performance, then stick with the OEM wing, otherwise go for some added rice :wink:
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how much does it affect top speed? i heard as much as 40kph
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Postby Ako » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:14 pm

Are you going to be seeing much racetrack use?

Just go with whatever you think looks best if not. Functionality is all good - but my opinion is the GT wing would look better than the factory one. It never looks quite right on the ST205 to me.

Even with the lancer evo's, which at a wild guess have had no end of development work put into their aero package... I can honestly say they don't feel any different without the wing at all until you start getting up above 150-160km/h, when the back end gets a bit more twitchy than before, nothing I'd call alarming by any means however. This is even on the late model (4-5-6-7) sort of models.

Also seem to consistently get around 2mph better trap speeds without the wing on too....
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Postby GT4 20 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:16 pm

deaf_rattle wrote:
GT4 20 wrote:
RomanV wrote:I recall GT420 saying that the gt4 ST205 wing produced something like 40kgs of downforce at 120kph. 8)


50kg @ 100km/h :D

If you want performance, then stick with the OEM wing, otherwise go for some added rice :wink:
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how much does it affect top speed? i heard as much as 40kph


Where are you planning on driving at 250km/h? :wink: Let's keep things within the realms of reality shall we :P
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Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:18 pm

i was just saying... and it is reality thanks 8)

after abit of a search, its more like 20-30kph
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Postby diss7 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:58 pm

on my 205wrc, I took the wing off too see if I would notice a difference.

Acceleration was slightly better above 100km/h
But the car was a LOT more unstable at those speeds.

I promptly put it back on.
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ok

Postby TRDmod » Wed Jun 21, 2006 6:41 pm

oh man
this is hard
rice and maybe some effect
or toyota tested stuff
but the gt wing looks so much better
the gt4 wing looks abit... awkieward i think

..... i mean i want it to help
but at the same time i want the look of the gt wing more, i compared both
heights and its equal in height
but the gt wing as the '3d' design which in theory works better.

anymore arguaments, cos this helps me:D
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Re: ok

Postby GT4 20 » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:44 pm

TRDmod wrote:but the gt wing as the '3d' design which in theory works better.


Works better as what? If you're talking aerodynamics and wanting downforce, you'd better check out the technical specifications and actual testing on the wing by teh designers/manufacturers to ensure that it does actually create useful downforce and not just drag. You'll also probably require extensive testing (a wind tunnel would be ideal) to ensure that the wing is set at the coorrect angle.


As per previous post

GT wing is pure bling.
Factory wing = real world downforce.
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Re: ok

Postby HELBND » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:48 pm

[quote="GT4 20You'll also probably require extensive testing (a wind tunnel would be ideal) to ensure that the wing is set at the correct angle.[/quote]

Gary - are there any facilities in NZ for this?
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Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:50 pm

yes
i believe auckland university has there own wind tunnel

what this all comes down to, is what would Vin diesel choose?
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yeah

Postby TRDmod » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:55 pm

that is fair enough deaf rattle
i mean realy.........when you live our life.... a quarter mile at a time.........................nothing else matters..........
gt wing go the bling YO!!

a'ight....G...........cough sorry got carried away

ok.... mmmmm anymore feedback apart from vin diesel ones, or paul walker is included in that one... or that new kid that has a really hick yokel accent
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Re: yeah

Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:59 pm

TRDmod wrote:ok.... mmmmm anymore feedback apart from vin diesel ones, or paul walker is included in that one... or that new kid that has a really hick yokel accent


haha yeah, i reckon they shouldve gone all out and done the forrest Gump accent, racing is like a box of chocolates...

just do what you want, at the end of the day its your car, your money.

Who cares if some guy in some forum doesnt like it.
just dont do chromes ok??
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