4A-GE Silver Top AE101 Chip??

[ae101levin]

Hi all, has anyone chipped a AE101 4A-GE silver top before, and if so what type enhancement did it provide? Can anyone recommend a good outfit in Auckland to get this done?

[Bling]

what do you mean by "chipped"? you cant just add a chip to your ae101

[ae101levin]

sorry, im new!!! I mean an upgraded computer chip for ECU...

[sergei]

nope, can't do that.

[Jebus]

You can use an interceptor, which modifies the signals that go to your stock computer from sensors on your motor, you will never make big power using these, but some people have made small gains, up to 10kw at very maximum I suppose.

Most common kind is the Apexi SAFC, HKS make one, Haltec make an interceptor, Unichip (theres a good place in Papakura that can install and tune these, 'soliatare' will no doubt fill you out on the info of his one), theres alot of these things around, some better than others, I wouldnt consider it unless you get one that has its own map sensor, such as MAP ECU or the Unichip can be upgraded to have one.

The best thing is a full aftermarket computer such as a link etc...

[ae101levin]

thanks for advice all, will probably go down the track of full aftermarket computer. Anyone then able to recommend best product, and what type of power gains to expect? Everyting else on the car is stock, apart from K & N pod filter.

[Jebus]

Probaly none, except theres the possibility it will have less driveability than stock. Why do you want to 'chip' a stock motor?

Sure they do it on Fast & teh Furious, but wont help ya much here unless ya have some more engine work.

[ae101levin]

thanks Jebus, thats the advice I was really looking for

[Alex B]

And with a link you would probly get worse than stock fuel economy to go with that no gain at all. Not alot of point.

[Dell'Orto]

And with a link you would probly get worse than stock fuel economy to go with that no gain at all. Not alot of point.

How did you come up with that?

[Lloyd]

No real gain over stock for obvious reasons, and fuel economy on the basis that you have to tune the car for the top end of the box that you're fueling. Probably not so bad on an N/A

N o eal point going aftermarket until you have some mods that would require an aftermarket ECU. Unless you're after the wank factor of "Yeah, running a Link bro, goes hard as"

[Mr Revhead]

actaully theres HEAPS of power to be found in the silvertop

my SARD ecu upped power and torque a dyno proven 12ish percent.

so a well tuned link would be a good idea imo.

[Loudtoy]

actaully theres HEAPS of power to be found in the silvertop

my SARD ecu upped power and torque a dyno proven 12ish percent.

so a well tuned link would be a good idea imo.

I would definately agree with that as whilst doing a bit of playing with my old silvertop chucked it on a dyno and played around with afm a bit (standard computer i was/am poor). In order to get af ratio safe (never to lean) through the rev range had to be quite rich in places which wasn't really that great for power. My suggestion would be to just go for an safc or similar unless you are planning on doing any major work (anything involving opening the thing up and replacing parts inside or adding forced induction is major). An safc will give you the best tuning bang for buck with minor (exhaust intake extractors) and you should be able to get it tuned by just about anyone with a dyno and the abiltiy to read where ever you are - of course some will be better than others but hey ya get that.

[NZ_AE86]

Plenty of extra power and even more torque to be found with a Link on a Silvertop.

[Caveman]

I wouldnt touch the ecu for now. Much more cost effective mods.

A SAFC would only do half the job, still need to adjust the ignition maps to suit the new fueling else your only doing half the job.

Get a full ecu if your fixed on getting one. Something like link or microtech. There are heaps out there.

Budget around $2000 for purchase, install and tuning. Could be more or less by about %20.

Personally I would get a cam regrind and exhaust, then get a new ECU to tune for maximum performace, minimum practicality. The cam profile and ecu tune should dictate your performace:practicality ratio.

All up all of that could cost 4000-5000 dollars.

Another alternative is turbocharging, but thats a whole different story.

[sergei]

with $5000 you can turbo it with much more successful results.

[ae101levin]

thanks everyone for all your advice. Am really looking to do only minor mods to sqeeze a bit extra out of it but maintain practicallity as i drive it everyday. Thats why I thought about ECU being a good place to start to get some ehanced tuning functionallity without playing with internals. It looks as though it already has extractors fitted from factory, would that sound right?

[Dell'Orto]

They do have a tubular manifold standard, but they're not as effective as decent aftermarket extractors.

[crnkin]

You should stick with what you have for now and save.

Save save save, with 200 bucks here and there it will be hard to get anywhere. If you save a grand here, BANG thats cams. another grand BAM theres a link. another 500 bucks and BOOM, you can get it installed and tuned.

Also decide if you wanna go NA or turbo, turbo is much cheaper for more power, and NA is simply awesome when fully done.

thats what i think anywhos. OR sell it and buy a gtz for 4k!

[Mr Revhead]

They do have a tubular manifold standard, but they're not as effective as decent aftermarket extractors.

damn hard to find anything better.