Ripped off by Ray Mullany aka "Ken" / "Robin&

[4000GT]

Well, I am doing this to a) make people aware of this guy, and b) to see if I get any leads to help the police further.

I paid $500 for some manual conversion parts in late August. Ken said he sent them over 2 weeks ago, but there is no sign of the parts, he wont give me a consignment note number, he has not given me a refund, the courier broker (Rotorua Freight Brokers) never got a parcel from "Ken" to go to Christchurch (they lookd through the manifest), and the local distributors in Christchurch have no "lost" parcels or documentation for the parts, and I havent heard from him since last Monday after being in very regular contact with him. Ken emailed me and said a work mate put him onto me as he found out I was looking for manual conversion parts for the MKIV Supra. I posted this here... We exchanged lots of emails and he was extremely helpful and was a really generous guy with his time in getting the parts together etc. I am still really hoping there is an explanation for everything... but it looks hopless. He really was a nice guy... he races a Supra and had lots of interestng info about them. Here are his details that I have:

Name: Ken
Location: Somewhere between Rotorua and Taupo
Job: Japanese Diesel mechanic
Bank account: XXX Bank XX 9002 0259404 00 "Japanese Diesel"
Cell number: 021 2140554
Email: v4water@hotmail.com

Today I lodged a report with the fraud squad at the central police station, they think its pretty clear they guy ripped me off and they see it all te time. Ken if you see this please refund me my money or front up with the parts I have paid for (if they exist). And I will ask for this thread to be deleted.

PS this isnt the Ken (moderator guy here...)

Andrew

[IH8TEC]

might pay not to just post peoples bank account details. doesn't matter what the circumstances are or how pissed off you are. it's not like anyone here is gona help you with that info.

yes give it to the police, but on toyspeed

but yes that does suck, seems like you've had a raw deal

[4000GT]

might pay not to just post peoples bank account details. doesn't matter what the circumstances are or how pissed off you are. it's not like anyone here is gona help you with that info.

yes give it to the police, but on toyspeed

but yes that does suck, seems like you've had a raw deal

I am not sure why it would pay not to post that detail. I am not posting the bank account out of spite. And its not like anything can be done with it anyway. It's so if anyone is asked to send money to that account from Toyspeed, they can be made aware... hope that helps you understand why I posted it.

[RedMist]

No, but with some simple answers to simple questions, someone could withdraw whatever is in that account.
Not a good move, it doesnt assist your cause.

[Quint]

No, but with some simple answers to simple questions, someone could withdraw whatever is in that account.
Not a good move, it doesnt assist your cause.

? No you need the password or Photo ID?

Thats how you set up APs you give someone your bank acc # and all they can do is deposit money.

Otherwise don't you think he'd withdraw back the money he put in there?

[CozmoNz]

you really wanna know how to get money out of that account?

its fairly simple, trust me....

[4000GT]

No, but with some simple answers to simple questions, someone could withdraw whatever is in that account.
Not a good move, it doesnt assist your cause.

I will leave it to the moderators to decide if it should come off my thread. I am only posting it to protect other potential victims. If this is at the expense of my cause, then so be it. Thats a price I am willing to pay to make people aware. As far as I know its not illegal to post a bank account number on the net. If anyone can show me that it is, I will remove it straight away.

[4000GT]

you really wanna know how to get money out of that account?

its fairly simple, trust me....

I am leaving it up to the police to get the money The fraud squad are pretty quick moving, the file went to them straight away and they work over the weekend. Lets hope the details lead to the guy.

[samham]

thats gutting! you rely on trust online and some people are just not trustworthy! I hope they catch the sucker (guilt assumed). Seeing his account getting cleaned out would be nice, although if hes resorting to crime I doubt theres anything in there.

or i could just go pc brigade and say dont post his details.

[4000GT]

thats gutting! you rely on trust online and some people are just not trustworthy! I hope they catch the sucker (guilt assumed). Seeing his account getting cleaned out would be nice, although if hes resorting to crime I doubt theres anything in there.

or i could just go pc brigade and say dont post his details.

Yeah its really put a massive downer on the project, as the parts he said he had are not that easy to come by really. I still am really hoping he comes through, hopefully the police help with that. I have never had a problem in hundreds of transactions over the net etc over the years, so I guess I trusted people a lot in these kind of deals. Certainly will be more cautious in the future.

[Dell'Orto]

Edited enough to keep it reasonably anonymous

[Nathan Young]

thanks for posting i think we need to help each other out when
it comes to lossers like that.
i hope you get the parts rather than the cash i know what its like
trying to find supra mkIV parts can be hard sometimes.

[fangsport]

possibly not too diferent to the tosser from Nelson that announced measuerments to be as i wanted them, but in reality, (after nasty e-mails to get the part), it was the same as what i had, that dosn't fit.

end of story.....................Trade Me is full of tards.

[Drifter4ag]

a good thing to do is that if they dont have an email address listed with an ISP finish the transaction over the phone this way you can track them to an address. Also safe trader or similar can be used to ensure packages are delivered and fraud minimised.

How do I get money out of that account?
Im pretty sure you need Photo ID etc & will need to know his special password or have your own Direct Debit authority setup ... but even then of course you will get caught

[4000GT]

a good thing to do is that if they dont have an email address listed with an ISP finish the transaction over the phone this way you can track them to an address. Also safe trader or similar can be used to ensure packages are delivered and fraud minimised.

How do I get money out of that account?
Im pretty sure you need Photo ID etc & will need to know his special password or have your own Direct Debit authority setup ... but even then of course you will get caught

I had talked to him on the phone, but just over cellular. I hope someone here knows who it is...

Safe trader is something I had not considered, I probably will with more expensive purchases now.

[Mr Revhead]

if he races a jza80 some one wil know him
i know a few ppl who move in those circles so ill ask around

[4000GT]

if he races a jza80 some one wil know him
i know a few ppl who move in those circles so ill ask around

Thanks Warwick. Appreciate that. Who knows what the truth is though! I would have expected a response from "Ken" one way or another by now...

Its put my project back a fair bit, thats the bit which psses me off most.

[strx7]

do you know the name of the place the guy works at? or more specific details about his location, i'm in the trade, and know people in the trade in that neck of the woods, i also have friends who live in that neck of the woods, so if you can give me more details i'm sure i can find more info on the guy. PM me if you have more details.

Cheers
Shane

[blackmk3]

im actually quite worried...i thaught it wasnt easy/possible to withdraw from someones account...several people on trademe (all good trades tho) know my account details.

go back to the good old send the cash in the mail?

(sorry about the thread hijack, really sorry about the situation that really stinks )

[Mr XXX]

cash in the mail is illegal I thought, you need to send thos gay things, what are they, oh right cheques.