Swapping AE92 (FXGT) to AE101 Manual Box

[MrOizo]

What would be needed to have this done?

will i be needing the shafts as well or should i be able to get away with using the AE92 ones.

Have searched but not too sure what they others have been saying

so anyones?... blease

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

when my c56 from an ae111 went into my ae92, im pretty sure the ae92 shafts and stuff were all used

i *think* that there may be one fiddly bolt at the rear near that bottom that can be a bastardo if it hasnt had the box out previously?

[deaf_rattle]

i have an ae101 manual box in my fxgt

[MrOizo]

oh sweet as santa... was that just loosenign it? if its going to be too much of a hassle the i just wont do it - lame huh!!!

and deaf_rattle - shoosh your lips. you have a tinny valve

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

mines got a tinny valve in it too but the dark variety

i think its more the bolting it back on type thing
needs slotting or something possibly?

[deaf_rattle]

yes i have, but that box was on the redtop before hand

[MrOizo]

yes i have, but that box was on the redtop before hand

Oh really?

what was the happs there?

Might have to come and have a lookie and a chat if you dont mind!

[deaf_rattle]

sweet as, it was in the car when i got it. but yeah pop round or something.

[soopachargen]

mines got a tinny valve in it too but the dark variety

once you've had black you'll never go back

[vvega]

normally cause they have stolen your watch

[AceSniper]

are you talking about one of the studs on the hanger bearing been a bitch?
you can pull the stud an replace it with a bolt

[Stealer Of Souls]

This could be FAQable...

Got a friend getting a AE92 and this has me thinking of gearbox options.
I'm guessing all 4AGE NA FWD (92, 101, 111)g/boxes have the same ratios, are they internally the same?
How do these compare with the GZE boxes.
Which ones had LSDs standard?

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

from memory C52, C52, C56, C160(? 6 speed)

As far as i am aware only the C56 has the LSD option

on the firewall build plate it will have something like C52-***C or C56-***A
C = LSD
A = Open dif

ive got no idea on GZE boxes tho

[MrOizo]

Here ios a thread that i got when i searched last night

viewtopic.php?t=19401&highlight=revs+%2A101

[Santa'sBoostinSleigh]

C = LSD
A = Open

all 3 of my C52's are A, open difs
my C56 is a C, and is LSD
ive also seen C56 A's, and they are open

[Mr Revhead]

one thing to watch for
if the starters on the front (i think it is on that car) as the ae101 box has 2 starter "bumps" (looks like micky mouse ears) the rear bump can foul on the water bypass pipe that goes from the waterpump to the thermostat housing.
that stops you getting the box on.

[Cahuna]

I'm guessing all 4AGE NA FWD (92, 101, 111)g/boxes have the same ratios, are they internally the same?

This is the list of ratios that I compiled last year after a bit of searching on Google.

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               1st   2nd   3rd   4th   5th   6th   F/D
C50           3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 ----- -----
C52           3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 ----- -----
C56           3.166 1.904 1.392 1.031 0.815 ----- 4.312
C59           3.166 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 ----- -----
C60           3.166 2.050 1.481 1.166 0.916 0.725 4.529 (BZR?)
C150          3.545 1.904 1.310 0.969 0.815 ----- -----
C151          3.545 1.904 1.233 0.885 0.725 ----- -----
Quaife C/R    2.583 1.929 1.563 1.333 1.158 1.048 -----
TRD C/R       2.929 2.176 1.700 1.364 1.167 ----- 4.733

So the best difference (for me in the rally car) with the C56 is that it has a shorter 3rd, making it closer to 2nd. (My new gearbox, which is a mix & match of C56 and C60 will be even closer )

[Stealer Of Souls]

So many different options... I had no idea...

Good work on the ratios.
That C151 would make a nice street box for a SC engine (except the need to replace the first ratio with something a little shorter(??), the TRD C/R first would be good...) But I digress...

Nicked from the other thread....
5 speed:
C150 3.166/1.904/1.310/0.969/0.725/R3.250 - EP82 (S), EL43, EL44, EL53, EL54
C152 3.166/1.904/1.310/0.969/0.815/R3.250 - EL43 (FHE), EL44 (FHE), EP91 (NA)
C50 3.545/1.904/1.310/0.969/0.815/R3.250 - AE100, AE110, AE101 (4A-FE)
C52 3.166/1.904/1.310/0.969/0.815/R3.250 - EP82 (turbo), AE92 - AE101 previous term, AE111 (4A-FE)
C56 3.166/1.904/1.392/1.031/0.815/R3.250 - AE101 latter-term - AE111 previous term, EP91 (turbo)

6 speed:
C160 3.214/2.050/1.481/1.166/0.916/0.725/R3.250 - AE101 (Serret/Mali last & touring wagon), first stage of AE111 latter term, AT210
C60 3.214/2.050/1.481/1.166/0.916/0.725/R3.250 - AE111 latter term

And we have:
C***-***C for LSD
C***-***A for open

Warwick went on to say that the applications could be wrong, but seemed okay...
Then there's the E series boxes used with the GZEs.

[trdfxgt]

just had a skim over this what about 6 speed in a ae 82 ? and will my trd diff fit it

[MrOizo]

Well i got what i think is a AE101 box in the rolla.

Only real differences that i noticed and fixed were the speedo cable, shifter cable brackets (dont think that needed doing and the fork pivot was bigger diameter on the ball top bit (which i didnt change)

Shafts fitted but i think the ends were machined/cut off to make them shorter, shouldnt the ends be beveled to fit in easier?

hmmm....