Wastegates and stuff

[Akane]

I'm gonna stick a dirty external on my MR2, does anybody have FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE with those dodgey Tial copies? Or am I better off buying the real thing at twice the price? We all hear stories on how they fail and you end up running mad vtax boost etc, but do they really crap out?

[IH8TEC]

i'll give you first hand experience, as soon as you get it, pull it apart, locktite the screw that holds the diaphragm onto the alloy bit that moves up and down, then pull the grub screws out that hold the valve in there and loctite them and put back together

then it will last for bloody ages, like mine has, after i figured out what the problem was, it's been mint since then. my guess is that tial etc must do this when they make them lol.

oh and use very high temp loctite, (it's green)

and a the end of the day, it's controlled my boost damn well up to 20psi. but as i'm going higher, i'm swapping for a tial one, just for insurance i guess.

[Akane]

Thanks, time to decide I guess.

[flygt4]

there are other cheap options besides the copies.
i use a standard audi quattro gate,i think its 35 or 38mm, and its been reliable up to 21psi. i will probly be upgrading to a tial soon anyway, more for aesthetics and space constraints than being unhappy with the audi item. if you can get hold of one cheap they are a viable option.

[Akane]

I'll probably end up getting a Tial, If I have to go through all that procedure, buying locktite and hope it'll hold, might as well go all the way and know it'll be good, don't want another boom boom, not that my engine can't handle the extra boost, but my MAP sensor only goes to 18~psi

[flygt4]

yep mine only does 22psi so when im 1psi below that i dont like to leave any margin for error anyway.
plus its one less thing to worry about and in the scope of things 430 odd$ isnt much compared to what an engine costs.

[FrEsH]

i got a cheap tial copy...hasn't let me down yet, as with most thingsthough there are good and bad stories...i've heard storeis about them breaking and shitting out but about 5 or 6 of my mates all have em and we've had nothing but success...

[99gtt]

I'll probably end up getting a Tial, If I have to go through all that procedure, buying locktite and hope it'll hold, might as well go all the way and know it'll be good, don't want another boom boom, not that my engine can't handle the extra boost, but my MAP sensor only goes to 18~psi

My mate is selling his 38 mm tial waste gate as he is upgrading to a 50 mm . It is a year old and would be lucky to of done 2000 kms as the engine was being rebuilt most of last year

[matt dunn]

Just going through the smae deal at the moment,

And same thing, due to thye fact that I cant afford a failure as a DNF or missed race meet will ruin my whole series,
have decided that wil have to go genuine tial.

looking around at the moment for the best deal.

Matt

[flygt4]

Just going through the smae deal at the moment,

And same thing, due to thye fact that I cant afford a failure as a DNF or missed race meet will ruin my whole series,
have decided that wil have to go genuine tial.

looking around at the moment for the best deal.

Matt

yep sucks when such silly things cause failures.
the cheapest genuine new tial 38mm ive seen so far has been 420 i think. im sure there will be cheaper around somewhere tho so im keeping an eye out.

[vvega]

Just going through the smae deal at the moment,

And same thing, due to thye fact that I cant afford a failure as a DNF or missed race meet will ruin my whole series,
have decided that wil have to go genuine tial.

looking around at the moment for the best deal.

Matt

what did you do with that tial you got off me ??
that will lermn ya for selling it...BTW it was a gunine tial too

[matt dunn]

Just going through the smae deal at the moment,

And same thing, due to thye fact that I cant afford a failure as a DNF or missed race meet will ruin my whole series,
have decided that wil have to go genuine tial.

looking around at the moment for the best deal.

Matt

what did you do with that tial you got off me ??
that will lermn ya for selling it...BTW it was a gunine tial too

Lol,

Could not afford to keep it then,
but that's always the way,
sell something one day,
need to buy another the next.

Matt

[Dell'Orto]

Why not try import a few? The way the dollar is currently, Tials will be bloody cheap.

[matt dunn]

Why not try import a few? The way the dollar is currently, Tials will be bloody cheap.

What like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Real-TiA ... dZViewItem

Could be an option.

[Akane]

Importing could be a plan.

[EVLGTZ]

Theres usually a few people flicking them off pretty cheap (tials not copies).

Should be able to find some 400ish already in NZ rather than needing to import them yourself.

[IH8TEC]

if someone does get them in, and cheapish, let me know as well. but i want a bling redtop one

[Akane]

Can someone set us up the groupbuy?

[Lith]

Kenny, I got my TiAL 38mm from ATPTurbo.Com for mine - I think it was like $229US. Get a bunch from them! Everyone I know who have gone cheap externals have ended up aspiring to or outright gone for a TiAL or other name brand one for various reasons.

Why are you going external? Upgrading from dirty DP? Or are you going for a filthy MHI turbo?

[flygt4]

mmm BB GT5533R

hmm tial 38mm is $229US on there, which is $332NZ

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merch ... y_Code=WGT

shipping weight of 3lb, which is 1.3kg, anyone care to price shipping from US to NZ at 1.3kg surely it cant be that much, not the 100$ more you pay in NZ anyway.