Gen 1 SW20 /Gen2 3sgte Engine Management

[solitaire]

What do you guys use for engine management?

Apexi dont make a plug n go solution, would prefer to stay away from piggy back... was thinking that link is the best choice...

Generally just interested if anyone has an opinion on this topic...

[Boosted_162]

I think link is the only plug-in available? Ill be going for a G3 when i get round to an ecu, so much easier for the wiring noobs.

Cliff uses a Motec, will be nice to see his results.

[strx7]

personally I prefer Haltech, a New E6X will cost around $1500-1600.

I have used Haltech for 6 years, know them inside out, so dont need to learn something new, so every car i build i use one on.

[solitaire]

I think link is the only plug-in available? Ill be going for a G3 when i get round to an ecu, so much easier for the wiring noobs.

Cliff uses a Motec, will be nice to see his results.

Exactly what i was after thanks man so a link g3 is essentially a plug 'n' play? (with tuning etc as well of course) No arseing about with the wiring?

[Adydas]

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LEM G3 + adaptaLink $1590 inc

Plugin replacement for Mazda (MX5/GTX/GTR), Nissan (R32/R33/S13/S14/S15/N14/GTiR), Subaru (WRX V1-6/RS), Toyota (SW20/ST185/ST205).

Mate runs a Motec in his MR2 and highly reccomended it to me and his tuner, his cars mad modified but he says it drives like factory but with rad power.

[fivebob]

Any ECU can be made plug and play for the Gen II 3S-GTE using this adapter http://www.mrcontrols.com/products/pnpboard.htm

[Akane]

Buy my PowerFC imo.

[solitaire]

Buy my PowerFC imo.

rent to own?

Id do the group buy on the LEM if my money wasnt tied up in the bloody wedding...

besides... the power fc's dont work on the gen2s out of the box... at least thats what everyone (including apexi) told me

[Adydas]

you can get a version that will work out of the box its been haxord by another company to work with the AFM as apposed to the apexi programmed MAP.

You need to find your self an AP engeneering Power FC.


you SHOULD find this to be the part number to

4E14T04Z

[solitaire]

you can get a version that will work out of the box its been haxord by another company to work with the AFM as apposed to the apexi programmed MAP.

You need to find your self an AP engeneering Power FC.


you SHOULD find this to be the part number to

4E14T04Z

oh right, have you got one?

The boys on mr2oc said it wasnt good... and that most us tuners wouldnt touch them... but that is yanks though....

[mister2]

Depends on your requirements - Link LEM G3 + adaptor for $1590 is pretty hard to beat value for money. If you want to run over 22psi boost you'll need the MAP sensor upgrade ($135 for 55psi). PowerFC are good but a little dearer.

MoTeC are great too if you have the datalogging requirements and the bank balance.

Cheers

Nick

[solitaire]

Depends on your requirements - Link LEM G3 + adaptor for $1590 is pretty hard to beat value for money. If you want to run over 22psi boost you'll need the MAP sensor upgrade ($135 for 55psi). PowerFC are good but a little dearer.

MoTeC are great too if you have the datalogging requirements and the bank balance.

Cheers

Nick

Thanks nick... perhaps i should tell you what i want to achieve eh?

I would like to join the 200kw club, which i would like to do with the Steel Wheel CT20b & Aussie downpipe that i got from Al (obviously with a lot of other bits)

As my Gen 2 3sgte has slightly higher compression than the later gens im hoping to be able to make that with less than 20psi.

It would be nice if it was able to be installed into other vehicles in the future, should i ever decide to sell the mr2...

[mister2]

Realistically either an LEM G3 or Power FC will get you to the 200kw club with factory driveability, ECU's don't make power (!), tuning does. You'll get launch control (or antilag) with the LEM which impresses the ladies

What info are you after?

Cheers

Nick

[solitaire]

Thanks Man, Yeah i realise that an ecu doesnt actually give power per say.... but i realised it was rather flange-like to say "whats best for me?" without actually telling you my intended application

Anti lag is something im very interested in from a performance point of view, I'm getting married in a month so i dont need to try anymore

The only other application i would realistaly ever want to use it for would be an A, J or U series engine.

So the Lem sounds good for me...

Are there any advantages the more pricer solutions have over a lem?

[mister2]

Umm... about the only major one I can think of is knock sensing, both the LinkPlus and Power FC have this but the LEM doesn't. That being said, it isn't that critical unless you go running the car on lower octane than it is tuned for. With the Power FC you'll have to retain the AFM too, unless you pay through the nose for an APS one.

LEM/LinkPlus will also get you boost control with a additional boost control solenoid, allows you to run a "boost knob" to adjust boost in cabin.

About the only other one is support, Link is pretty good for that if anything goes wrong, whereas it is a little trickier with Apexi.

Anyway we can supply LEM + adaptor for $1590 and with the current group buy that includes the required inlet air temp sensor ($120).

Hope this helps.

Nick

[solitaire]

Very, Very Helpfull... now just gotta find the cash

[Akane]

My AP Engineering PowerFC was pay & plug & play on my Gen 2 3S-GTE MR2. I paid extra for this version which is repinned and has software loaded for the Gen 2's MAP sensor.

[solitaire]

My AP Engineering PowerFC was pay & plug & play on my Gen 2 3S-GTE MR2. I paid extra for this version which is repinned and has software loaded for the Gen 2's MAP sensor.

Ok, The only reason i wasnt keen is that mr2oc.com forums say that the ap engineering version is pants... you reckon its ok?

[Akane]

Even after I tried explaining to mr2oc about how AP Engineering adapted the PFC to the point where it's plug and play on Gen 2, they are still confused.

Well, it got me to the 200rwkw club, plug and play and I installed the optional air temp sensor, and it controls my 550cc injectors (which I even adjusted the lag time myself, it's that simple). so I'd say yeah, it did OK to me.

[solitaire]

Akane: Ok... So how much are you after and why are you selling it?
(i dont have the cash now but i would like to have an idea of cost).

Mister 2: Is there any other way of detecting knock if/when i go lem? A simple light on the dash or a counter would do fine... just so i can keep an eye on it...