Trick turbo setup

General discussions on all non technical car related topics

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Trick turbo setup

Postby XERO » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:33 pm

I spotted this earlier... Its from a tuning company in the states called Currency Motor Cars, they have managed to get 810hp from the high com V10... the car may go on sale for around $350,000 us and has been dubbed the worlds most powerful 4 door sedan... pwoah!!!

Anywhoos, does anybody have any idea how this would work... does it suck the exhaust gasses out of the engine or something :?

Image
Image
Altezza RS200 Z Edition
For performance parts :: www.drivenperformance.co.nz
User avatar
XERO
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1080
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Auckland :: West

Postby postfach » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:39 pm

its just a turbo mounted on the end of the exhaust instead of at the end of the headers.
User avatar
postfach
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:45 pm
Location: North Shore, Auckland

Postby Lith » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:42 pm

Err - do you know how turbos work??

Just in case you don't, they are exhaust driven - exhaust pulses push one wheel in the turbo, which is connect to the other one through a shaft which sucks air in and forces it into the engine.... hence the fact one side of the turbos are attached to the exhaust, and the other is attached to the intake. Its just a bit odd having them attached to the end of the exhaust system instead of to the exhaust manifold.
User avatar
Lith
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3137
Joined: Mon Dec 02, 2002 5:22 pm
Location: Kapiti

Postby XERO » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:48 pm

Of course I know how a turbo, I was just confused by the setup...
Image
Altezza RS200 Z Edition
For performance parts :: www.drivenperformance.co.nz
User avatar
XERO
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1080
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Auckland :: West

Postby XERO » Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:48 pm

Of course I know how a turbo works, I was just confused by the setup...
Image
Altezza RS200 Z Edition
For performance parts :: www.drivenperformance.co.nz
User avatar
XERO
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1080
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Auckland :: West

Postby Akane » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:10 pm

Nothing to be confused at, they just moved the turbo all the way back with extended pipes.
No "stance", no "hellaflush", none of that bullshit. Nothing but no grip on full boost.
http://www.lol.co.nz/ random shit.
User avatar
Akane
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 4073
Joined: Tue May 14, 2002 2:08 am
Location: Auckland

Postby Quint » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:22 pm

Thats alot of pipeing to pressurize....
User avatar
Quint
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1251
Joined: Tue May 24, 2005 2:24 pm

Postby matt dunn » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:22 pm

Akane wrote:Nothing to be confused at, they just moved the turbo all the way back with extended pipes.


Yes,
but what a very odd way of doing things???
7AGTE - DX20VT - viewtopic.php?t=59733
Discussion - viewtopic.php?t=59751
matt dunn
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 7109
Joined: Fri Sep 12, 2003 1:01 am
Location: Timaru

Postby 2LTR Rona » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:30 pm

would it not add lag to the setup by moving things all the way back there ? :?

yes total n00b question I know :oops:
2002 Altezza, 1974 KE25

www.hccc.org.nz
User avatar
2LTR Rona
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1903
Joined: Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:43 pm
Location: Wellington

Postby postfach » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:36 pm

you'll probably find they don't use an intercooler since the piping is so long, which eliminates some of the lag, probably brings it down to a similar level as a car with a big intercooler at the front. i saw something like this once before, STS or something, and american company that does turbo kits for corvettes and redneck trucks
User avatar
postfach
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:45 pm
Location: North Shore, Auckland

Postby aesc » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:38 pm

2LTR Rona wrote:would it not add lag to the setup by moving things all the way back there ?


Quint wrote:Thats alot of pipeing to pressurize....


I think thats the answer right there.

And what about the lengths of the intercooler pipes, oil and water lines, surely that cant be good

Not to mention the fact there is no mufflers after the turbos 8O Might have trouble adherring to 95dB :lol:
EX AE101 owner

2013 Ford Focus ST
User avatar
aesc
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1411
Joined: Wed Feb 18, 2004 2:29 pm
Location: Brisbane

Postby no_8wire » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:42 pm

looks like there is one before the turbos though...
User avatar
no_8wire
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2268
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2004 7:30 pm

Postby XERO » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:44 pm

aesc wrote:
2LTR Rona wrote:would it not add lag to the setup by moving things all the way back there ?


Quint wrote:Thats alot of pipeing to pressurize....


I think thats the answer right there.

And what about the lengths of the intercooler pipes, oil and water lines, surely that cant be good

Not to mention the fact there is no mufflers after the turbos 8O Might have trouble adherring to 95dB :lol:


Wouldn't the turbo's act like muflers though?... I would imagine it would be quite quiet
Image
Altezza RS200 Z Edition
For performance parts :: www.drivenperformance.co.nz
User avatar
XERO
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1080
Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:22 pm
Location: Auckland :: West

Postby postfach » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:46 pm

just found the other company i mentioned:

http://www.ststurbo.com/benefits

Apparently the turbo does act like a muffler and the sound is about the same as a performance muffler?
User avatar
postfach
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2205
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:45 pm
Location: North Shore, Auckland

Postby strx7 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:52 pm

i have seen a number of early mustangs and the like turbo'd like that in the US, due to the fact that the turbo's get EVEN pressure there is very little pulsing it means that spool up is actually pretty quick.

dont be fooled into the 'closer to the exhuast port = best set up' way of thinking.
Online Car Forums - Where Hui seems to take preference over Do-ey

HDJ81- 112AWKW @ 10psi), FC3S (Tarmac Spec 335rwhp@11psi), 3SGTE stroker - replacement body found.

Motorsport Bay of Plenty - http://www.mbop.org.nz
strx7
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3707
Joined: Mon May 24, 2004 12:06 am
Location: Tauranga

Postby Pharnos » Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:35 pm

horsepower tv installing a similar setup...

http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvid ... e3a63d.htm
Pharnos
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 31
Joined: Mon May 20, 2002 10:58 am
Location: West Harbour

Postby IH8TEC » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:00 pm

plus its a high comp v10, how much torque will there be seriously 8O might be a bit different if it was a little 1600 4age with similar setup lol.

also long oil lines etc doesn't mean anything, it will be getting cooled in the long length of line, but they might also have a oil cooler in there somewhere.

looks good though and wicked power
Current Rides: 1994 Hiace Custom
KTM 250sx

Previous Car: 1988 Toyota Levin 4agte
234kw atw and 12.5@183kmh
Sold to a muppit who wrecked it
Hmm
User avatar
IH8TEC
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3128
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:11 pm

Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:12 pm

i suspect engine bay space was at a premium, so it made sence to mount them else where
User avatar
deaf_rattle
Old Skool User!
 
Posts: 8039
Joined: Fri May 17, 2002 1:32 pm
Location: right where he belongs

Postby Mr Revhead » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:52 pm

itll be for USA emmsions laws

in a lot of states you cant touch the cat. that means you cant move it or anything.
so in some applications they have to mount turbos after the cats for space and heat (cats need to be in a certain heat range to work). so some times the only option is where you see them above
thats also why centrifugal superchargers were/are popular for mustangs
Being the subject of E-whinges since 2004 8)

http://www.centralmotorsport.org.nz/home

Image
User avatar
Mr Revhead
SECURITY!
 
Posts: 24635
Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:06 pm
Location: Nelson

Postby gleem » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:53 pm

i would want to scrape the underneath of that car
User avatar
gleem
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1008
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:23 pm

Next

Return to General Car Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 14 guests