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Postby ChaosAD » Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:28 pm

Ive got some custom made coilovers in my fx. But you can only wind the rears down as far as the tyre. If you wind them down further the spring seats would rub on the tyre.

They are standard struts with threaded sleeves welded onto them.
But even with standard suspension the tyres are almost touching the strut.

How does everyone else get around this? I cant space the wheel out as it would be half out the gaurd.
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Postby Distrb » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:18 am

what size tyres & rims/offset are you using?

I've always used a 3mm slip on spacer when running anything larger than 195/50/15 with -1 to -2deg camber, and its cleared both the strut and the guard without any issue..

Also can try enlarging the pinch bolt holes on the strut so you can push the top out and base of the hub in, which would give you slight positive camber but bringing the edge of the tyre away from the strut, then adjust your top hats so you can get your camber back into the negatives again

thats if you have camber adjustable top hats in the rear however

i did hear of someone using an ae92 rear hub also.. but have yet to investigate how/why/if it worked
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Postby ChaosAD » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:54 pm

I am using 195/50/15 with about 1 degree negative camber, and they clear the strut itself fine. But theres no way you can lover the platforms below the height of the tyre as theres not enough clearance for that.

Dont have adjustable top hats.

I have asked about using an ae92 hub, but didnt get any answers.
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Postby Distrb » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:11 pm

is it for street or race?

how high is the car off the ground at the present setting?
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Postby fxgt race » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:46 pm

i have the same set up.a sleved standard strut with a bilstein insert,the tyre was hard on the spring.had a fabicater weld new plates on the bottom to move the two holes out 12mm on the strut.made up sum camber plates to move the top of the strut in as much as i could and use camber bolts to set the camber at around 2.5 deg.the main problem is i run a 16inch rim with a 205 tyre on the road and all this was mainly to fit these in and this works well,the race wheels are only 185 and there is not as much of a problem but still have to run a 3mm spacer with longer stud bolts.you could possibly get a shorter spring made up so you dont have to wind the sleve bolt down to much.
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Postby ChaosAD » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:24 pm

Its a good height at the moment. However they are far from being captive so I need to get some helper springs, but then the car will be too high.

The spring is almost wound right up and only just clears the trye. Have thought about moving the threaded tube up the strut and getting shorter springs.

Have also thought about fabricating a new foot for the bottem of the struts to move the bolt holes out a bit.
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Postby fxgt race » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:50 pm

sounds like they are about the same as mine,my threaded piece is welded on low as well and the spring bolts are near the top of the thread and this is with keeper springs,the spring bolts sit about level with the rim of the wheel at the moment.only two options are to move the thread up an use shorter springs or move thr holes out and use camber plates.
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Postby MrDori » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:42 pm

shorted springs will sort it.
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Postby ChaosAD » Fri Apr 20, 2007 7:56 pm

Yea but they are ae92 inserts so would probably need two keeper springs or to have the shafts shortened. Being adjustable koni's it wont be cheap to shorten them though.

fxgt race: did moving the bolt holes out alter the suspension geometry much when you did it?
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Postby fxgt race » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:15 am

both the holes where moved out the same amount and using the camber plates the top was moved in the same amount so the only thing changed was the whole strut has been moved in 12mm to clear the wheel,hasn't to my reckoning changed to much suspension geometry .I take it your struts aren't long enought to move the threaded sleve above the tyres as in how a standard strut is set up,with a shorter spring there is no need to shorten the shock as all you should be doing is moving the sleve up to clear the tyre and shorting the spring to compensate,just a bit off off mucking around and your sort it as there are not to many options.
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Postby Allister S » Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:06 pm

I've been trying to work out a solution for exactly this problem - but have yet to make up the coilovers. AE82's just don't have clearance at the back. To make it worse I'm using 205 targa tyres and 5mm spacers = no clearance to a standard strut.

I can only think of squezing all of the spring supports above the tyre and making a topmount that moves the strut top inwards as far as possible.

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Postby ChaosAD » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:29 pm

Yea but if I do that ill either have to shorten my koni's $$$ or use two helper springs per strut :?
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Postby MrDori » Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:35 pm

is the threaded section right at the top of the strut?
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Postby crispy'86 » Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:06 pm

I must admit with my standard rear struts the shock is close but then again i am using 45 offset wheels, who's thought of running 25 or less offset wheels to overcome this?? I've got 28 offset road wheels for driving to the track and back and haven't really had many troubles, also what's the spring seat diameter in question?
If it comes down to it i'll try my ae92 rear hubs on my fx to see if it's a doable thing when i get my rear coilover setup fittted
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Postby crispy'86 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:52 am

also another question, what spring seat diameter are you guys running with coilover setups?
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Postby ChaosAD » Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:50 pm

Do the ae92 rear hubs look similar? where the control arms connect etc.
Im running 65mm on the front and 60mm on the rear.
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Postby crispy'86 » Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:25 pm

ae92 do look similar as i did look at this option when i first started to put the fx together. Would have been easiest option to try first but at the stage it was easier to get it up and running then upgrade, lower arms, trailing arms etc from memory all bolt up. How about i try it and let ya know?? I've got full ae92 setup from my old gtz trueno
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Postby THA SHZ » Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:15 pm

Ae92 rear hubs dont bolt up to the ae82 struts vise versa , just done this im using ae92 struts and had to elongate the holes to match as they are further apart on the ae92 hubs compared with the ae82 . Bout 10 mm difference 8)
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Postby crispy'86 » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:56 am

crispy'86 wrote: I've got full ae92 setup from my old gtz trueno

Yip been there looked at that, hence saying the whole setup, struts etc to match the hubs :D
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Postby Allister S » Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:41 pm

Check those rear hubs carefully as I remember there was some difference in one of the lower arm connections - different width bush or something.......
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