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Postby Spannergal » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:38 pm

Gonad wrote:I think the check chassis numbers under there.

I like a warrent to pick up things that are a danger fo my safety - but it pisses me off when they fail me for stoopid crap like a loud exhaust or window sprayers not working.

That stuff is just a waste of my time and money to remedy.

If it were me I'd probably give them a call to say "hey - you guys issued me a warrent and the following was way dodge - it might pay to pick up your game or next time I'll have to report your buttocks....."


It sucks if they are too lazy to fill your washer bottle themselves so that the WOF can be issued.
From helping out with too many WOFs to count, there are people out there (probably not in these circles) that don't understand having to/know how to top up the washer bottle, and if you can't see through the windscreen it is dangerous.

Hell, you can fail for having stickers in the wrong place of the side windows of a vehicle.
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Postby Bling » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:08 pm

Nothing wrong with $25 WOF's Ollie, Maybe you should just keep ya cars in a WOF'able standard and not rant about your problems not being picked up in a WOF.

$25 WOF's FTW!
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Postby method » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:23 pm

I remember taking a car to VTNZ near Quay street.
They failed me because they reckond the king springs needed a cert (they were captive, he checked, wiggled them around etc, took ages on it. And because it was too "loud". This is all in a VTNZ building with concrete walls and one enterance.

Took the car to my usual wof place, they pointed out my brake caliper was leaking fluid!! Thank god i took it there. Wan't the smallest leak the caliper was covered in brake fluid.

Fixed that then they passed me :D

Im sure the vtnz saw that my car was modified and they pretty much went straight for the exhaust and springs, missed everything else :roll:
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Postby ollieboy » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:30 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:Nothing wrong with $25 WOF's Ollie, Maybe you should just keep ya cars in a WOF'able standard and not rant about your problems not being picked up in a WOF.

$25 WOF's FTW!


I'm not saying theres a problem with $25 WOF's just the one I had I was disappointed with, the Wof is to check safety problems and If they dont pick up on basic ones like hole in the exhaust, what could they be missing. I do try to keep my cars at a warrantable standard but I like to know what needs to be done to keep it like that.

Theres a few people who are against me saying bad things about the $25 warrant I got. Do you have some sort of affiliation with the $25 warrant places and don't like when I say bad things about them?
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Postby Bling » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:36 pm

well the fact your warrent cost $25 has nothing to do with the lack of checks done on your car... as said above by someone.

You come across as saying a $25 is clearly not a good idea. Which is just silly as price is unrelated to the check.

no affiliation for $25 WOF checks, just stating the obvious thats all

I do however use an on the go WOF shop, and have done so for years, on many different vehicles which are all maintained well. Never had a problem, never driven a car in dire need of repairs tho, be it failable repairs or not. Wouldn't catch me driving a car that made as many noises as you describe :lol:
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Postby ollieboy » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:38 pm

Oh yeah, I didnt mean it that way though.
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Postby Bling » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:40 pm

ollieboy's Thread title wrote:$25 WOF's are shizzel.
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Postby ollieboy » Tue Apr 24, 2007 6:42 pm

But now I think about it, as its $25 they aren't making the money off it they would be if they were charging $40 so they could skip a few things so they can get more people through and make more money. I'm sure this isn't the case but its worth a thought.

So just to make this clear. I don't have a problem with the price of the WOF, just a problem with the service given by the place with $25 warrants. Will change title accordingly.
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Postby Ae92typeX » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:26 pm

lol, I got your point on your first post.
When it comes down to it, some places check more than others, some places are more dodgy, whilst others value giving good safe service.
Used to be a place over on the shore which passed almost anything...some really dodgy stuff. In the end they lost their licence - dont know if anyone complained, or someone had a dagerous crash and it was investigated.
Now its all online, they need to be even more careful - many are entered in the system before the test is even made now.
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Postby S T E A L T H » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:48 pm

meh.. i used to go to the dodgy rewa WOF garages back in the day when i drove POS cars , and they never cared about rust or leaking power steering, but they did fail me on a bady worn tyre that i wasnt aware of (worn on the inside).

if you know something important (like your brakes) are rooted just fix it - dont wait for the WOF inspector to tell you to do it. a little common sense goes a long way.

and a leaking exhaust is in no way a "safety issue"
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Postby Crucible » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:07 pm

method wrote:Took the car to my usual wof place, they pointed out my brake caliper was leaking fluid!!

Im sure the vtnz saw that my car was modified and they pretty much went straight for the exhaust and springs, missed everything else :roll:


that's typical testing stations.

We have had numerous cars in for wof repairs and have found stuff like badly corroded brake pipes, perished hoses, structural rust (bad!!), loose tie - rods!, flogged out ball joints, I sh*t you not!!

They seem to be very an*l on little pissy things and half the sh*t they knock back we would only note on the checksheet. I think a big part of it is three or more items failed and you have pay for a recheck well, thats what Ive heard....

ollieboy wrote: so they could skip a few things so they can get more people through and make more money. I'm sure this isn't the case but its worth a thought.


Very unlikely, You have to realise that loss of wof authority can cost a workshop alot of buisness, profit from wofs alone arnt really worth the time you spend checking the car, but the work you get from them is what keeps most small workshops going. Not to mention you can be put up for manslaughter if you miss an item and it causes an accident that results in a death.

theres alot more to it than walking around a car and kicking the tyres...
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Postby fangsport » Tue Apr 24, 2007 10:36 pm

True-No-Turbo wrote: that's typical testing stations.

We have had numerous cars in for wof repairs and have found stuff like badly corroded brake pipes, perished hoses, structural rust (bad!!), loose tie - rods!, flogged out ball joints, I sh*t you not!!
i have been helping a colleague out with his honda that had a fresh WOF with : 2 bald tyres, backingplates for brakes and split (not perished) brake hoses. i know where the warrant came from, and he is also on my hit list.

True-No-Turbo wrote:They seem to be very an*l on little pissy things and half the sh*t they knock back we would only note on the checksheet. I think a big part of it is three or more items failed and you have pay for a recheck well, thats what Ive heard....
i was under the impression it was the same as compliance and 10 items is a full recheck fee??

True-No-Turbo wrote:Very unlikely, You have to realise that loss of wof authority can cost a workshop alot of buisness, profit from wofs alone arnt really worth the time you spend checking the car, but the work you get from them is what keeps most small workshops going. Not to mention you can be put up for manslaughter if you miss an item and it causes an accident that results in a death.

theres alot more to it than walking around a car and kicking the tyres...
yep. and i bet there is more than one workshop and a few aftermarket suppliers that are shitting them selves at the moment. whilst the car must meet NZ standards at compliance, there is no set standard for aftermaket parts at WOF time. there has been a few crashes involving serious injury and death where the car was fitted with 'dressy' aftermarket steering/suspension components that failed miserably and court cases are very likely. maybe the WOF testers should be either asking for and engineers cert for these components, or the importers grow a conscience and get them test and certed before selling.
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Postby mr30%jr » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:22 am

exactly what are you complaining about... you passed... who cares? wof doesnt mean anything anyways its a VTNZ car filter to try get 80s and boyracers of the road.
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Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:24 am

mr30%jr wrote:exactly what are you complaining about... you passed... who cares? wof doesnt mean anything anyways its a VTNZ car filter to try get 80s and boyracers of the road.


not true, as mentioned id like to know if my car is safe to be on the road. I dont often get the chance to stand underneath my car to have a decent look.

Do you check for play in your wheel bearings? and that sort of thing?

I dont care if you die for driving an unsafe car, but there are plenty of people on the road that dont deserve to be killed by your actions
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Postby mr30%jr » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:49 am

deaf_rattle wrote:
mr30%jr wrote:exactly what are you complaining about... you passed... who cares? wof doesnt mean anything anyways its a VTNZ car filter to try get 80s and boyracers of the road.


not true, as mentioned id like to know if my car is safe to be on the road. I dont often get the chance to stand underneath my car to have a decent look.

Do you check for play in your wheel bearings? and that sort of thing?

I dont care if you die for driving an unsafe car, but there are plenty of people on the road that dont deserve to be killed by your actions


i actually do check for play in my wheel bearings cause none of my cars have wofs atm. i check for various other things and change tyres and pads n stuff regaurdless wof or not.

i mean come on a hole in you exhaust is hardly unsafe... if were looking at the safe factor yes wheel bearings but i think people need to take responsibility instead of fueling this cotton wool country go get a jack and check them if you need to replace them... if you think its safe to drive the car drive it

example:

my wof place. "theres been some frontal damage there you might just wanna tak it up and primer it soo that if you have a crash they dont come chasing us. (good c**t), i noticed a leaking brake line up in the front there?? "nah nah thats the clutch line joiner its a c**t to tighten up" *ticks that off*

if you feel you need a better go to vtnz and fail on reflectors not reflecting enough and no centre belt in a 4 seater and to many clicks on your handbrake
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Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:52 am

id like you to have more holes
i bet you wouldnt last very long :wink: you know that the exhaust fumes are over 2500ppm of co and that the STEL is 50ppm for 60mins...

probably dont have much in the way of braincells left :lol:
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Postby mr30%jr » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:04 am

deaf_rattle wrote:id like you to have more holes
i bet you wouldnt last very long :wink: you know that the exhaust fumes are over 2500ppm of co and that the STEL is 50ppm for 60mins...

probably dont have much in the way of braincells left :lol:


i drive mr2s sorry awwwwww :lol: ones just got a peice of pipe off the colectors awwwss big leak lol

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Postby Ae92typeX » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:09 am

99% of people on the roads rely on others to check and tell them if their cars are safe to drive. I dont see any issue with that - not everyone enjoys cars - they are an a-b transport option. I'd laugh if I saw my brother jacking his car up to check wheel bearings. People taking their cars for wofs are being responsible
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Postby deaf_rattle » Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:11 am

as i said, you have probably already done damage :lol:
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