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Postby AceSniper » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:06 pm

think ur passed help :lol: :lol:

blacktop no cambelt = bent valves
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Postby AceSniper » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:09 pm

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Postby TRD_ZERO » Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:57 pm

Hey maybe there is an upside. You could still buy that whole car at a CHEAPER price since it is rooted now. Then you will still have all the parts to convert over (brakes, manual conversion +more i bet) to your car and still have a base engine to build off and sell the parts that you dont need. There are plenty parts that i would be interesed in and im betting other people on here would be too.Yeah the head is mostlikely gone but there is still plenty more you can slavage from that car, i got a blacktop head pretty cheap that is still sitting in my garage.
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Postby lee90 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:35 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:Hey maybe there is an upside. You could still buy that whole car at a CHEAPER price since it is rooted now. Then you will still have all the parts to convert over (brakes, manual conversion +more i bet) to your car and still have a base engine to build off and sell the parts that you dont need. There are plenty parts that i would be interesed in and im betting other people on here would be too.Yeah the head is mostlikely gone but there is still plenty more you can slavage from that car, i got a blacktop head pretty cheap that is still sitting in my garage.

thanks man when I get the car I will call u see what u think HAHHA
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Postby fxgt race » Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:20 pm

you won't get 200hp with a crank and some injectors,the standard ones are sufficient.A full rebuild silvertop rods or better,trd headgasket,port and abit of a polish.valves 3 angle cut,valve springs,cams 290deg +.adjustable cam wheels.port matching the throttle bodies,good exhaust,and about $800 for a good dyno tune.gave me 135kw at the wheels and at trackdays it is pretty even with a honda type r with 145kw.good to here na's reving to 8800rpm,can be done with out to much difficulty,a bit of money,maybe alot of research before you dive in as you need to learn a little more about engines instead of listening to the people you have been talking to because there claims seem a little far fetched.
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Postby lee90 » Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:29 pm

fxgt race wrote:you won't get 200hp with a crank and some injectors,the standard ones are sufficient.A full rebuild silvertop rods or better,trd headgasket,port and abit of a polish.valves 3 angle cut,valve springs,cams 290deg +.adjustable cam wheels.port matching the throttle bodies,good exhaust,and about $800 for a good dyno tune.gave me 135kw at the wheels and at trackdays it is pretty even with a honda type r with 145kw.good to here na's reving to 8800rpm,can be done with out to much difficulty,a bit of money,maybe alot of research before you dive in as you need to learn a little more about engines instead of listening to the people you have been talking to because there claims seem a little far fetched.

i see what would u prefer I can ask u some tips I know I have no idea in this but I need some one expert in engine specially 4age blacktops and a good understanding in 20Vs. I'll try to do some research need the time and tool for that as well,anyway how much dus your engine cost to upgrade it
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Postby bOi » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:13 am

hey cool you have the same bumper as me :P

On the serious note, ok we all see that you "love" your car very much.. BUT WHY?

rationally thinking, it would just be cheaper to buy a real bz-r if thats what you want in the end of the day. Not like as if there are no bz-r's for sale around. And building a 20V, is not cheap. Hint, its a 5 figure work.

Maybe you should PM Bazda instead. He may help you. I don't know.. but from the looks of it, you're far from help.

Nice car from the outside tho :)
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Postby lee90 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:53 pm

bOi wrote:hey cool you have the same bumper as me :P

On the serious note, ok we all see that you "love" your car very much.. BUT WHY?

rationally thinking, it would just be cheaper to buy a real bz-r if thats what you want in the end of the day. Not like as if there are no bz-r's for sale around. And building a 20V, is not cheap. Hint, its a 5 figure work.

Maybe you should PM Bazda instead. He may help you. I don't know.. but from the looks of it, you're far from help.

Nice car from the outside tho :)

why i love my car well I put all my money in this car and paint the hole car as well. so that's why I don't want to change this car body to other BZG other wise i will spend even more money and doing the same step i was doing befor.anyway I spend alot of time to fix all the little dents on the 4afe car I guess there is no point to stop now. and I love blacktop for some dam reason looks cool and rev it high.and abit more power.I guess guess you guys don't know why I am doing this.

like some people do up the old trueno ae86 or ae85 but I just want to do up the 4age blacktops ae111.
even though I have to spend alot of money in this but in the end of the day u will see the finish product.( sorry if I spell it wrong.)it just the feels great to finish one project what u are doing a dream. but I am going for the expansive way. well it's my falt that i deside the wrong car. I should have bought the BZ-G in the first place.lololo
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Postby bluemaumau » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:17 pm

dude seriously buy bzr and put all your stuff on it, even if it does have a few dents its going to be cheaper to fix them than pay someone to turn your fz into a bzr
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Postby solitaire » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:22 pm

lee90 wrote:like some people do up the old trueno ae86 or ae85 but I just want to do up the 4age blacktops ae111.
To be frank, the reason people do up ae86's is because they are an awesome piece of toyota history that you cannot purchase anymore... so people sink their blood, sweat, tears and most likely quite a few relationships into them...

I am not saying that there is no point in your work - But you could go and buy a BZG or whatever from a car yard for the sticker price & get it painted for way cheaper than it will cost for someone to convert an Auto FZ into a Manual BZG for you - they will probably charge you extra because they dont want to do it.

What im saying is that the reason "i have already sunk a lot of money into it" doesnt really make any sense mate - If its got sentimental value then let us know...

These guys are quality and they are always going to advise the best course of action for you to follow... untill you give them a reason for why this particular FZ is worth the money they will always try to encourage you to make the best use of your time and your money.

Failing That: If your determined take your car to a performance shop and tell them to convert it to a Manual BZG - dont buy any parts yourself.. make them do it and make them get it certed. That way you will be sure you will not have any grief in the future and it will put a dollar value on what you are trying to achieve
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:57 pm

My first car was my first project and i got the same shiz from everyone "Why did you spend so much money on it blah blah balah you should have bought a dohc turbo to start with" In the end i didnt even notice how much money i spent on it and it didnt matter the only thing that mattered was how much fun i had, you get to a certain point with you car when its too late to turn arond and start from scratch on a new one. I know where you are comming from lee90. If you are really passionate about your car as it seems you are just do what you want....take everyones opinions in consideration as alot of them have a great amount of experience but dont let it fully hinder what your goal is.


So my advice would be keep the car you have and buy the crashed bzr with the fooked engine and start swapping all the bits over pull that engine out and send it away to get it worked on...... you can pick up a new head pretty cheap. You were getting it at a pretty good price to begin with but now that the engine is fuuked you should be able to get it cheaper....... My 2c
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Postby Dell'Orto » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:48 pm

My advice is that you take a large wad of cash south to Matt Dunn and buy his motor, then you'll have more power than is ever going to be necessary.
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Postby lee90 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:55 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:My first car was my first project and i got the same shiz from everyone "Why did you spend so much money on it blah blah balah you should have bought a dohc turbo to start with" In the end i didnt even notice how much money i spent on it and it didnt matter the only thing that mattered was how much fun i had, you get to a certain point with you car when its too late to turn arond and start from scratch on a new one. I know where you are comming from lee90. If you are really passionate about your car as it seems you are just do what you want....take everyones opinions in consideration as alot of them have a great amount of experience but dont let it fully hinder what your goal is.


So my advice would be keep the car you have and buy the crashed bzr with the fooked engine and start swapping all the bits over pull that engine out and send it away to get it worked on...... you can pick up a new head pretty cheap. You were getting it at a pretty good price to begin with but now that the engine is fuuked you should be able to get it cheaper....... My 2c


thanks trd_zero I guess u know what I am going for I don't mean my car is special just if I get another car I will spend even more money on it so eather way is too late for turning back now I am 60% done of my project of this car so I am trying to finish this and move on to driving it hard out.
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Postby lee90 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:58 pm

Mmm, Boost wrote:My advice is that you take a large wad of cash south to Matt Dunn and buy his motor, then you'll have more power than is ever going to be necessary.


who is this matt dunn guy what dus he have?
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Postby bluemaumau » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:02 pm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motor ... 71.htm?p=1

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lee90 wrote: just if I get another car I will spend even more money on it .



how can you say that? have you got a quote from a workshop for engine installment, wiring and auto to manual.

i guarantee you could buy a bzg and get a mint bodykit and paintjob, get your engine worked and have some spare cash :roll:
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Postby Bazda » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:09 pm

oh god, i wont even comment.

engien specialties can build you a 200hp n/a 4age 20v engine but you would prob have a bill of about $10-15k
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Postby lee90 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:27 pm

solitaire wrote:
lee90 wrote:like some people do up the old trueno ae86 or ae85 but I just want to do up the 4age blacktops ae111.
To be frank, the reason people do up ae86's is because they are an awesome piece of toyota history that you cannot purchase anymore... so people sink their blood, sweat, tears and most likely quite a few relationships into them...

I am not saying that there is no point in your work - But you could go and buy a BZG or whatever from a car yard for the sticker price & get it painted for way cheaper than it will cost for someone to convert an Auto FZ into a Manual BZG for you - they will probably charge you extra because they dont want to do it.

What im saying is that the reason "i have already sunk a lot of money into it" doesnt really make any sense mate - If its got sentimental value then let us know...

These guys are quality and they are always going to advise the best course of action for you to follow... untill you give them a reason for why this particular FZ is worth the money they will always try to encourage you to make the best use of your time and your money.

Failing That: If your determined take your car to a performance shop and tell them to convert it to a Manual BZG - dont buy any parts yourself.. make them do it and make them get it certed. That way you will be sure you will not have any grief in the future and it will put a dollar value on what you are trying to achieve
hi solitaire I didn't mean my car have sentimental value I just say for every bodys hobby is different. like some like to do it from when they get the car. but I made it wrong. decision at the start so don't go hard on me man~ didn't mean anything man. just I don't want to do the same things all over again.
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Postby lee90 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:38 pm

Bazda wrote:oh god, i wont even comment.

engine specialties can build you a 200hp n/a 4age 20v engine but you would prob have a bill of about $10-15k


thanks dude I guess I will keep it blacktop stock then -.-" too expansive
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Postby bOi » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:46 am

i think you should get a 4agze and turbo it :) I know you want to keep it na.. but ur car is set up right, like it has good suspension to begin with :D 4AGTE it, you will love your car more later :roll:
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Postby solitaire » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:31 am

lee90 wrote:I didn't mean my car have sentimental value I just say for every bodys hobby is different. like some like to do it from when they get the car. but I made it wrong. decision at the start so don't go hard on me man~ didn't mean anything man. just I don't want to do the same things all over again.
I wasnt going hard on your mate... Example. I have a 1990 ae92 Levin Apex. One day (when i have heaps of time) i want to strip it down, repaint it, restor it to original condition and maybe stick a 7age or a 4agze in it. It makes no sense as i could buy something better for my money - but my car was bought for me by my father before he died (he owned a ke25 and loved corollas) - so there is an explanation for my insanity.

What i was getting at was i was trying to understand if there was a similiar them for your car... You keep asking the same questions and people keep knocking you back because what you are saying makes no sense... i am trying to help you explain to everybody why it is worthwhile completing your project.

I still dont understand your reasons however... doing it for the sake of finishing it seems a bit backwards... you will end up with a car that has the same performance as a factory BZG but you will of spent twice the money getting it there...

lee90 wrote:say for every bodys hobby is different
Yeah my misus didnt aggree with my "set fire to a giant rubish bag full of $20 notes" hobby either... woman always spoil the fun!
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