A victim of the police!

[RevolutionStarlet89]

Ok so the story goes like this, i was drving down the main north road this morining and a cop was following me, he pulled me over and asked for my licence. He said the reason he pulled me over was because i have a noisey exhaust, which is true, its not ecessivly noisey, i no this because i hava mate with the same car and xhaust. So my point is, whats the reason in having that 95 d/b limit or whatever it is if the cops still just go throw tickets out willy nilly?? Ive never been pulled over before, never had a ticket or a complaint laid against me, i bleive that because of my car i have been picked on, the new Fords and holden have louder exhaust on them but what happens to them?? nothing. $150 fined, which will be hard to pay as i am still a high school student working part time, i dont go "boy racing" in the weekend. I think this ticket is bulls*t

[flat_0ut]

Get a readout of the dB of your exhaust, if its under 95dB you should get off the ticket shouldn't you?

[l1ttle_d3vil]

what I don't understand with the "noisy exhaust" law is my mates rotor will get failed on the wof and get pulled up all the time for being noisy... fair enough, it is pretty damn loud. BUT when some d!ck on his harley decides to go flying passed in the middle of town, his motorbike completely drowns out the noise of the rota. how can that be legal when its about 2x louder than the rota?
do the motorbikes get pulled up and hassled? (i don't see it happening if it does) or do they have a different level of DB they can go to?

won't try to turn this into a cop-slamming thread, but some can just be ignorant. i've experienced it first hand by a particular hamilton cop, but if you aren't doing anything wrong and they still fine you I would try prove them wrong.

[pjay]

meh. its just a fact of life. unless you are going to start a mafia to control the police i say get over it. happens to the best and the worst of us

[RevolutionStarlet89]

another thing that annoyed me about this, is that if my exhaust is so loud then why have the other 100 cops ive driven past never pulled me over for it?? unless that 1 had super hearing which im pretty sure wont be police issue lol, ok so im going to go get a db reading sometime this week, and write a letter with the print out to the pol pols, n c what happens. Another thing that bugs me is that, wheres the ensentive for me to drive responsibly and quitely (as i can) when i am doing that i still get a ticket for it? its just not right

[Mad Murphy]

There's not much you can do about it, you can try and fight it but the courts will always side with the cops on it or so I've been told. The fact is you made a decision to make your car louder or to buy a loud car and I'm sure you knew all too well that the police had the power to ticket you so you should live with it. I've been down the same road, I bought a car and it was loud and I got a ticket, I thought about arguing it then realised that:

A. My car's far too loud and probably pisses a lot of people off.

B. It's my own fault for buying a loud car and not doing something about it sooner.

and C. The cops are within their rights to enforce the law no matter how unfair it seems to you and unless they did something incorrectly you're not gonna win.

[strx7]

the one that pulled you over probably was no where near his ticket expectations for the day so picked on you to add another one to his tally

[RevolutionStarlet89]

I dont think my car is anywhere near as loud as some others i have seen, ill go and get it tested and if it under the 95db law theyr going to bring in ill send a copy of that with a letter to the police and see what happens, if it is over then i will gladly admit defeat and pay up. Im not against cops doing they're job or anything but i do find it unfair that they continually hound people they class as "boy racers", my car doesnt define who i am or what im like. i would have thourght not having any other infringments against my name i would have been let off with a warning. i wounder if i had my resinator in the same thing would have happend??

[Heswe]

Just get your exhaust certified, so when you are pulled up you can just say that it has been certed for that noiselevel.

[Caveman]

If you do the test can you let us know where you went, how much it cost, how long it took, etc. Cheers

Sucks how you need to prove your innocent after they've assumed your guilty. Unfortunatly thats how the police work in NZ with a lot of new road rules (excesive acceleration, etc)

[Ae92typeX]

There was an article in the loal paper the other week from the police stating that the noiselevel thing is basically up to them and that just because a car has a wof, it does not mean you wont get a ticket. It didnt mention the db factor, but did state normal wof places cant test noise levels anyway.
If I can find it around i'll paraphrase it in.

[slighty_sykotic]

the one that pulled you over probably was no where near his ticket expectations for the day so picked on you to add another one to his tally

$&#$% im sick of people saying that. There is no $&#$% ticket $&#$% quota.

[Mr.Phreak]

Damn, I was hoping he'd dragged you out of your car and beat you down with his nightstick.......and here I find out that it's only a $150 fine.

You yourself have stated your car is louder than standard which was the subjective test that was in place (But it's not excessively loud because your mate has the same car with the same exhaust?? WTF)

Judging from the tone of your post, I wouldn't be surprised if you failed the attitude test either, and instead of coming on here bitching about it, why not ask what your options are??

Owning a modified car has never been easy or cheap

[slighty_sykotic]

Damn, I was hoping he'd dragged you out of your car and beat you down with his nightstick.......and here I find out that it's only a $150 fine.

You yourself have stated your car is louder than standard which was the subjective test that was in place (But it's not excessively loud because your mate has the same car with the same exhaust?? WTF)

Judging from the tone of your post, I wouldn't be surprised if you failed the attitude test either, and instead of coming on here bitching about it, why not ask what your options are??

Owning a modified car has never been easy or cheap

^^ Agreed totally.

I know a $&#$% with cut springs that get away with it, does that mean I can aswell? (re you comment about ur mate with same exhaust).

And about the other cops not pulling you up, maybe they had other things to do? You know, those other jobs police have to do....

Options:

Go get it tested, then write letter if pass. Simple. Basically if you own a modified exhaust, you should get it tested to check it's legallitly, and keep it as proof. Its not hard.

[solitaire]

$&#$% im sick of people saying that. There is no $&#$% ticket $&#$% quota.

Is that a fact? i thought there was one myself, how else would they measure performance?

Not saying i dont believe you, just interested to know if that is confirmed fact before i change my opinion

[snwtoy]

the one that pulled you over probably was no where near his ticket expectations for the day so picked on you to add another one to his tally

$�$% im sick of people saying that. There is no $�$% ticket $�$% quota.

You will be interested to know, that although it's not defined as a "quota" the cheif of police would not deny on national tv that there IS an expected number of tickets to be handed out.
From the police management pov it makes sense, so that they know their staff are actually working, and not just sitting eating donuts all day. From the public's pov, it's an outrage.

Fact of life. Accept it or leave the country.

[slighty_sykotic]

$&#$% im sick of people saying that. There is no $&#$% ticket $&#$% quota.

Is that a fact? i thought there was one myself, how else would they measure performance?

Not saying i dont believe you, just interested to know if that is confirmed fact before i change my opinion

There is a "contact" type quota. They (and im talking about the stragitic traffic units here) are expected to have at least one contact an hour (that was the figure about 6 months ago, it may have changed, not sure, i will check).

Now contact DOES NOT MEAN TICKET. It means talk to someone. They can pull over 100 people in a day, give no tickets at all, and the boss will be happy.

EDIT, read my post on next page.

[slighty_sykotic]

the one that pulled you over probably was no where near his ticket expectations for the day so picked on you to add another one to his tally

$�$% im sick of people saying that. There is no $�$% ticket $�$% quota.

You will be interested to know, that although it's not defined as a "quota" the cheif of police would not deny on national tv that there IS an expected number of tickets to be handed out.
From the police management pov it makes sense, so that they know their staff are actually working, and not just sitting eating donuts all day. From the public's pov, it's an outrage.

Fact of life. Accept it or leave the country.

Read what I said above. Contact quota yes. Ticket quota NO.

[slighty_sykotic]

Edited

[solitaire]

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Understood... thanks for taking the time to explain mate

For the record i have always found the police fair... i had one particular south african motorcycle cop who i thought pulled me over for no reason (excessive lane changing - even though i indicated for more than three seconds for each lane change). But once we stopped he was completely fair and even gave me a week to get the "correcting lenses must be worn" condition taken off my license (laser surgery). So im pretty happy.

My exhaust is a bit on the loud side as well at full throttle, but i generally drive at low revs and always make sure im on minimum load when there are police around

There are definitely a few cops around with a chip on their shoulder... but i think that 99% of them are quality... dont give them attitude and they will treat you like a human being imho... if you get lippy then they will make an example of you, and rightly so - they deserve a little respect.