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Postby lee90 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:16 pm

solitaire wrote:
lee90 wrote:I didn't mean my car have sentimental value I just say for every bodys hobby is different. like some like to do it from when they get the car. but I made it wrong. decision at the start so don't go hard on me man~ didn't mean anything man. just I don't want to do the same things all over again.
I wasnt going hard on your mate... Example. I have a 1990 ae92 Levin Apex. One day (when i have heaps of time) i want to strip it down, repaint it, restor it to original condition and maybe stick a 7age or a 4agze in it. It makes no sense as i could buy something better for my money - but my car was bought for me by my father before he died (he owned a ke25 and loved corollas) - so there is an explanation for my insanity.

What i was getting at was i was trying to understand if there was a similiar them for your car... You keep asking the same questions and people keep knocking you back because what you are saying makes no sense... i am trying to help you explain to everybody why it is worthwhile completing your project.

I still dont understand your reasons however... doing it for the sake of finishing it seems a bit backwards... you will end up with a car that has the same performance as a factory BZG but you will of spent twice the money getting it there...

lee90 wrote:say for every bodys hobby is different
Yeah my misus didnt aggree with my "set fire to a giant rubish bag full of $20 notes" hobby either... woman always spoil the fun!


alright man I wil see what I can find. thanks eah
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Postby gmacrae » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:59 pm

what??! page 5 and the project is still full steam ahead??? he hasnt crashed it or nothing??? wtf are you guys doing? lol

Lee90, dude, im gonna elaborate what a few people have already told you, dont know why, i must be really bored, im usually not this nice :?

You've got to do a LOT more patient reading and planning before you go throwing thousands of dollars away trying to make this car go faster. Im talking at least a year here, this wont happen overnight.

So far, the bodykit, the wing, and the wheels have only slowed the car down - not the best start.

You seem dead set on shelling out lots of money to give your car 200hp without really understanding what has to happen. If you approach it like this, YOU WILL GET RIPPED OFF, BIGTIME. I suspect this has already happened with the body mods.

If you MUST use this car, and NEED it to be faster (more expensive to maintain, less reliable, more insurance cost etc etc), then you first have to work out how you want to make it happen. 200Hp from a non turbo 4age is going to be very expensive. It will cost you more than the entire car is worth, and once its done, you probably wont like driving it.

200hp from a turbocharged 4age isnt such a big deal, but will still cost you many thousands if you're not doing the work yourself. You would be best to start with a map sensor 4agze and give it a small turbo setup - cheap, simple (in comparison), and will go really nice.

Now you know what decision you have to make, go search the internet for say, a year or two on both options, and you should be knowledgable enough to ensure you dont get ripped off, and that you end up with a nice setup. Untill then, im afraid nobody is really going to take you very seriously. Sorry.

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*Edit* ...after reading this thread more, i like this guy lol. Lee90, Before you go spending ANY more money on your car, get the quote, and post it up here for us to check out, god toyspeed is good to you :D Good luck.
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Postby BZR4AGE » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:59 am

Hey Lee, I've read your post always and I thought is time I put my say into it too. By the sound of things and the way you are going, like previous people have said...will COST MORE than your car..which I found out myself and still not achieving 200hp.

I know where you coming from, as myself, I have many of my friends still saying to me with the amount of money I've spent, I've could have got an EVO by now, but hey what can you do when you love the car so much.

My advice is, and like many people said, PLAN IT WELL and PLAN IT ALL. Don't do it bit by bit. trying to achieve 200hp from the blacktop to me is a mission and is still a mission! If you don't particular favor turbo or NA, my advice is GO TURBO! with my mods now, (still not properly tuned) daily driving is quite bad, as low down in the rev there is VERY LITTLE torque, thus you will costantly need to rev high to get the car going, which to some motorist is annoying and thinking you are a boy racer (WHICH I FOUND OUT A COUPLE OF TIME.) No offense but most drivers on the road aren't very patient, like my setup now, having the car to go from the traffic lights slower than normal cars PISSES some people off (especially in auckland and in peak hours where people just use their horn when they are a second slower....anyway I stop here now)

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU LOVE YOUR CAR, and want POWER....GO TURBO.
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Postby frost » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:53 am

lee90 JUST DO IT!!!

go ahead with your plans and find out for yourself how the tuning would works. don't listen to the nay sayers. its the only way you'll learn anything. even if its blowing a big ward of cash. its not the final result that matters its the road leading there that counts. you'll have lots of fun and lots of tears on the way but hey thats life. give it a try. at least you'll know for sure if it will work or not.



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Postby lee90 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:15 am

hi guys I have pan it all out just have to get teh engine and the gear box and put the turbo it or supercharge it. see how far I can get get with that set up. hi thanks for the help guys I have made up my mind this time. u guy are pretty lucky that u have the skills to put the engine in your self i really wish I could do that.

however I wish one of u guys can help me set the car up I will still pay u but make my cost down abit and I want to learn it my self as well.
if anyones keen to help me out just give me a massage. by the way I bought the trueno COROLLA LEVIN/SPRINTER TRUENO Special Edition Bible hope it helps me out.
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Re: hi guys

Postby Bling » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:26 am

lee90 wrote:if anyones keen to help me out just give me a massage.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

The best way to learn is by doing it yourself, i'm not saying do everything yourself, but the more you try yourself the more you will learn. I started learning by buying a cheap KP Starlet without an engine, I completely stripped it out, bought an engine and manual and went from there, took me a good 9 months of weekend and after work time, but what I learn't doing that I would never learn by reading the net or paying others to do it for me.

just a thought, buy a kp starlet and do the same :lol: very basic cars that allow you to understand the workings that transfer to most cars.
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Re: hi guys

Postby solitaire » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:17 pm

BZG|Bling wrote:just a thought, buy a kp starlet and do the same :lol: very basic cars that allow you to understand the workings that transfer to most cars.
That is a great bit of advice :D

For the record - i think we all like lee90 - thats why we are trying to help him make best use of his money. It speaks volumes that after 5 pages of saying the same thing to him over and over again we are still all in good humor! :wink:

But yeah Lee, if this is your pride and joy i wouldnt do it yourself... You dont want to make a hash of it...
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Postby lee90 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:12 pm

ohh thanks man ~:D i will keep you guys posted when my car is done wish me good luck
I have fine out the price for the engine 4age blacktop 20V $2000 and gearbox

bost the engine $12,000
550HP bulletproff

computer link $1200

intercooler $400

G3 trubo $550 too $1800

custem Exhaust $800
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Postby escortman » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:33 pm

lee90 wrote:ohh thanks man ~:D i will keep you guys posted when my car is done wish me good luck
I have fine out the price for the engine 4age blacktop 20V $2000 and gearbox

bost the engine $12,000
550HP bulletproff

computer link $1200

intercooler $400

G3 trubo $550 too $1800

custem Exhaust $800


by 'bost' i assume u mean turbo it?
and is 12000 the total cost? why so much
550s a lot for 1600 bazda doesnt even have that
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Postby Grrrrrrr! » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:37 pm

lee90 wrote:ohh thanks man ~:D i will keep you guys posted when my car is done wish me good luck
I have fine out the price for the engine 4age blacktop 20V $2000 and gearbox


Check out the damaged car auctions/insurance tenders. you should be able to pick up a wrecked bz-g/bz-r for less than that. As well as getting the motor and box, you will also get the interior bits for the manual conversion and better brakes. And if you are making 550HP you will need better brakes. Plus you can sell off any bits you dont want to get some money back out of it.
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Postby slighty_sykotic » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:51 pm

lee90 wrote:ohh thanks man ~:D i will keep you guys posted when my car is done wish me good luck
I have fine out the price for the engine 4age blacktop 20V $2000 and gearbox

bost the engine $12,000
550HP bulletproff

computer link $1200

intercooler $400

G3 trubo $550 too $1800

custem Exhaust $800


Ill give you $12,000 tomorrow, and you make me an 550hp "bulletproof" motor ok?

If you do, ill give you more money.

Thats just no going to happen. Basically, people are going to get tired of answering your questions soon. You are going around in circles.

If you want help, then listen. If you ask, ignore advice, then people are going to start to mock you.

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Postby bluemaumau » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:16 pm

dude you actually are a dreamer, just do it, youll soon start to find out the real cost :lol:
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Postby solitaire » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:40 pm

lee90 wrote:boost the engine $12,000
550HP bulletproff
550hp is very respectable for a turbo engine of twice that size... i.e. a 3litre supra turbo...

IF you could get that power you would need a 6million degree cam profile and lot of other stuff that will mean your car is basically un driveable...

350hp is pretty good for a 2 litre turbo... and you want 200 more than that with 20% less engine...

Who told you 550hp bulletproof? which company?
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Postby Mad Murphy » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:48 pm

Some people live in a dream land. I bet bottom dollar this guy won't even convert his car to a blacktop.
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Postby solitaire » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:52 pm

I reckon he will, but he will run out of money or his wife will move out before he hits 200fwhp
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Postby lee90 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:23 pm

solitaire wrote:I reckon he will, but he will run out of money or his wife will move out before he hits 200fwhp


loollo I was just telling u guys now much it cost dusn't mean I wan tto spend that kind of money in that.

I was thinking about this last night what is the best power for racing 190 to 200HP well 200 HP well spend up too 12,k anyways with mod and computer mod in it. I think it's alright I get that not too expansive.

well at least I can drive on the street safe.

thanks for the tips guys It helps alot I know what I want now.

dus anyone here have backtop maybe we could meet up in the weekend how time.
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Postby narlystarly » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:26 pm

Is anyone slapping themselves on the forehead reading this topic?
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Postby lee90 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:31 pm

solitaire wrote:
lee90 wrote:boost the engine $12,000
550HP bulletproff
550hp is very respectable for a turbo engine of twice that size... i.e. a 3litre supra turbo...

IF you could get that power you would need a 6million degree cam profile and lot of other stuff that will mean your car is basically un driveable...

350hp is pretty good for a 2 litre turbo... and you want 200 more than that with 20% less engine...

Who told you 550hp bulletproof? which company?


I mean parts in the engine have to be bulletproof oter wise everythign will fall apart. best parts u can get. but have to get it from USA.
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Postby escortman » Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:13 pm

LMFAO can someone please just lock this thread
hes not listening to anyone or doesnt seem that way
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:54 pm

Lock the tread??? That wouldnt be very nice if you dnt like the tread then dont read or post in it, if people who are interested in it reply and the people who arnt dont then problem sorted. He is obviously one confused man in two minds about what he wants to do with his car. Just let him be. If no one is interested in this thread then dont post and it will all stop there easy as that.
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