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Postby solitaire » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:01 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:Lock the tread??? That wouldnt be very nice if you dnt like the tread then dont read or post in it, if people who are interested in it reply and the people who arnt dont then problem sorted. He is obviously one confused man in two minds about what he wants to do with his car. Just let him be. If no one is interested in this thread then dont post and it will all stop there easy as that.
Exactly!... I like this thread...

RE: the bullet proof parts... i dont think people make parts for 550hp 4age's...

Hell, do they even make parts for 300hp 4age's?

Bazda's car is crazy fast (from what ive seen on you tube)... but he has done a lot of that himself...
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Postby Lloyd » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:23 pm

Thats also not 500hp and not a 4A

As far as locking the thread, its still actually on topic (after 6 pages, who would have thought it could happen?) so can keep going.

lee90, you are a dreamer and you aren't listening to anyone. If you keep asking the same questions or not listening to what you are being told then there is no point even posting in here
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Postby slighty_sykotic » Sun Jul 08, 2007 1:17 pm

lee90 wrote:but have to get it from USA.



Why not overnight parts from japan? They should be the go surely?
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Postby frost » Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:35 pm

RE: the bullet proof parts... i dont think people make parts for 550hp 4age's...

Hell, do they even make parts for 300hp 4age's?


there are quite a few company's that make parts that will support those numbers, only problem is the company's are in japan and dont list them on there web sites, i have 3 200 page books on ae86/92/101/111 4age parts and 95% are still available. most parts are for NA but the big company's do turbo kits with big power in mind,
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Postby slighty_sykotic » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:47 pm

frost wrote:
RE: the bullet proof parts... i dont think people make parts for 550hp 4age's...

Hell, do they even make parts for 300hp 4age's?


there are quite a few company's that make parts that will support those numbers, only problem is the company's are in japan and dont list them on there web sites, i have 3 200 page books on ae86/92/101/111 4age parts and 95% are still available. most parts are for NA but the big company's do turbo kits with big power in mind,


That may be true, but 550? Bullshit.
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Postby TRD_ZERO » Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:13 pm

Who was it that said if Bazda had a really good cam setup and whatever else he could of got another 200kw.......... Im not the one who said that, im just trying to remember who did...........Anyway, 550hp Possible? i think it is
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Postby slighty_sykotic » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:54 pm

TRD_ZERO wrote:Who was it that said if Bazda had a really good cam setup and whatever else he could of got another 200kw.......... Im not the one who said that, im just trying to remember who did...........Anyway, 550hp Possible? i think it is


Bulletproof was the key word here. Plus the 12 grand part.


Show me how you can make a bulletproof 550hp 4age. Then show me how to do it for 12k.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:35 pm

first you take some crack.....
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Postby escortman » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:25 am

could just get on the bowl? :roll:
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Postby frost » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:48 am

there is a shop called "speed house alfa" who have a 500ps at the fly ae92 however its a 1710cc crank/rods setup,
my japanese is not that great, i maybe reading it wrong but a gt3037s turbo is used. do they reach that kind of power?
and the top fuel twin turbo ae86 with 300ps that is still 1600cc

just saying there are company's who make parts to do it. just gota find them.
i have pics if you don't believe me.
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Postby ChaosAD » Mon Jul 09, 2007 12:58 pm

Would be soo much cheaper to drop in a modified 3sgte.
But how the hell would you get that sort of power to the ground with a fwd?
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Postby Mr Revhead » Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:41 pm

ok, one thing to remember here ppl
i think lee90 is using a translation programme and is having some diffilculty with some terms etc
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Postby gmacrae » Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:11 pm

WTH? Guys, dont you remember the speedtech black dx doing 10's a while back? That was making well over 500HP on a "Stock" 8.0 gze block. I would think it probably had some upgraded studs/bolts here and there but it was definitely stock pistons, rods and crank, still 1600cc. Someone mentioned 3S? haha yea right.
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Postby slighty_sykotic » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:10 pm

Bulletproof? And for 12k?

Still no.

Thats the point we are aguring about. Not that you can get 550 from a 4age on a dyno or a drag strip.
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Postby gmacrae » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:58 pm

slighty_sykotic wrote:Bulletproof? And for 12k?

Still no.

Thats the point we are aguring about. Not that you can get 550 from a 4age on a dyno or a drag strip.


Ha, so something that ISNT bulletproof could still pull off 2 seasons of drag racing? (hell knows how many passes). Sure thats no 24hr endurance race but still pretty damn tough in my book. Quit dreamin buddy.
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Postby slighty_sykotic » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:35 pm

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slighty_sykotic wrote:Bulletproof? And for 12k?

Still no.

Thats the point we are aguring about. Not that you can get 550 from a 4age on a dyno or a drag strip.


Ha, so something that ISNT bulletproof could still pull off 2 seasons of drag racing? (hell knows how many passes). Sure thats no 24hr endurance race but still pretty damn tough in my book. Quit dreamin buddy.


Dreaming? lol, i want proof. So that motor cost less than 12k? Meaning I could walk into speedtech and hand over 12k and come out with a 550hp 4age?
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Postby ~SlideWays~ » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:37 pm

frost wrote:and the top fuel twin turbo ae86 with 300ps that is still 1600cc.


300ps isn't really that special. There are at least three 300ps 4agte's on here and thats on pump gas plus 4agze standard pistons.

lee90, why don't you have a read of some of the project build up's on here for some 4age turbo info?

ps... 550hp!? :lol: 8O :lol: 8O
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Postby Dell'Orto » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:09 pm

frost wrote:there is a shop called "speed house alfa" who have a 500ps at the fly ae92 however its a 1710cc crank/rods setup,
my japanese is not that great, i maybe reading it wrong but a gt3037s turbo is used. do they reach that kind of power?
and the top fuel twin turbo ae86 with 300ps that is still 1600cc

just saying there are company's who make parts to do it. just gota find them.
i have pics if you don't believe me.


Yep, 3037s will make 500 flywheel PS. Wonder what sort of bore/stroke they did for 1710cc's, pretty interesting combo :lol:

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slighty_sykotic wrote:Bulletproof? And for 12k?

Still no.

Thats the point we are aguring about. Not that you can get 550 from a 4age on a dyno or a drag strip.


Ha, so something that ISNT bulletproof could still pull off 2 seasons of drag racing? (hell knows how many passes). Sure thats no 24hr endurance race but still pretty damn tough in my book. Quit dreamin buddy.


Yeah, but Speedtech aren't exactly some retail paying customers are they? ;)
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Postby frost » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:10 pm

i was trying to remember what that black DX was making but forgot, i new it was BIG power. and mostly stock, so i dont see why every one is bashing big power from the lil old 4ag its been proven a winner lots of times but i guess people have short term memorys.

most of the stuff from the shops in japan are not designed for daily driving its only to show case what they can do and how far they can push it BUT in saying that they will make sure it can make that kind of power reliable, the japanese are very image/honor/face saving sensitive and dont like looking foolish when it comes to there business, they do it right the first time.

if he wants to waste his money let him!!! he worked for the cash so let the man spend it on what every the hell he wants!!!

lee90 here are some links with info and parts you'll need for the big power build.

bill sherwood will show you how to get 500HP!!!
http://www.billzilla.org/4agmods.htm
http://www.hksusa.com/
http://www.toysport.com/Technical%20Inf ... _notes.htm
http://www.turbocorolla.com/tech/4agte_part2.htm
http://www.turbocorolla.com/tech/4agte_part3.htm


or keep it NA and try for 200hp or 213ps if you got the money
http://www7.airnet.ne.jp/annex/engin_seisakuki.htm
http://www.revolver-jp.co.jp/
http://www.toda-racing.co.jp/en/new/frame_new.html
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Postby DJ » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:14 pm

Lets not forget that CT20b's will make 450hp :P
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