'Spiritual Toyota AE86 Replacement'

General discussions on all non technical car related topics

Moderator: The Mod Squad

Postby barryogen » Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:23 pm

ooh ooh... puleeze ooh puleeze give it that oh so special panda paint... that wouldn't be ghey at all... no, not at all.


/sarcasm
User avatar
barryogen
2ZZ Guru in training
 
Posts: 2692
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Dunedin

Postby MR2SIK » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:40 pm

escortman wrote:
MR2SIK wrote:Theres been various articles about a 'new' AE86 floating around for a while. Wouldnt there be something on the toyota website?
Toyotas of late have been soft, anything remotley sporty has a Lexus badge on it, and Lexus = $$$

I'm gonna vote bs


arnt the sportevo camrys gettin a v6 supercharged donk to fight falcon commodore


nuf sed

:lol:
2011 Ford Mondeo tdci.

Hey, at least it sounds like a 3s.

1990 MR2 GT garage queen
User avatar
MR2SIK
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2016
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:30 pm
Location: Christchurch

Postby rollaholic » Thu Jul 12, 2007 6:41 pm

pfft it can hardly be the spiritual sucessor without the panda paint scheme at least being an option...

but i reckon the main appeal (for me at least) to ye olde AE86s is the fact that its a nice basic, reasonably balanced car, with that classic 80's look. any new car is gonna be full of air conditioning, airbags, abs, etc etc, and look like it was made on mars or something.
BASU!
User avatar
rollaholic
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 5383
Joined: Fri May 28, 2004 2:19 am
Location: West is Best

Postby Adoom » Thu Jul 12, 2007 7:31 pm

DJ wrote:It looks like a boat tbh (or a Audi A3).

Blerg, horrible.

Modern cars will always be boats. It because of all this 'safety' junk that has to be put in cars these days. Blame America.
Personally I think one of the reasons AE86's would have been great is the lack of weight adding safety rubbish.
Can anyone think of a sub 1000kg modern car that isnt a motorised shopping trolley?
And what rollaholic said too.....

Aye? AYE!?
I'm bored and I cant be bothered making my tea........
User avatar
Adoom
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1516
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2003 5:36 pm
Location: Upper Hutt

Postby snwtoy » Thu Jul 12, 2007 10:53 pm

Liking it here. Needs better engine options though.
User avatar
snwtoy
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 5810
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:54 pm
Location: Auckland

Postby Grrrrrrr! » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:54 pm

solitaire wrote:Surely they will make some uber beams goodness to go under the bonnet...

Shall i start a trd supercharger group buy thread now or wait? :lol:


Meh, BEAMs or not its still going to be an under powered POS motor until you add one of the off the shelf turbo kits. Greddy, TRD etc already make em for that motor in a fwd format so it wouldn't take them long to make the RWD format kit i'm guessing.

If you want uber BEAMS goodness may as well throw a 3sge in and be done with it.. or a 2JZ :D
Grrrrrrr!
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2566
Joined: Tue Jun 17, 2003 7:21 pm
Location: Souf Orkland

Postby Adamal » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:58 pm

DJ wrote:
frost wrote:if only they bring back 80's pop up head lights,

frost wrote:if only they bring back 80's pop up head lights,

frost wrote:if only they bring back 80's pop up head lights,


QFT 3-Combos.


You guys are awesome. Popups would be true spiritual sporty experience time!
Motorsport is like sex. You could take it to track and have a long, enjoyable session, or you could take it to the strip and get it over with in less than 20 seconds.
User avatar
Adamal
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 11592
Joined: Sun May 02, 2004 4:01 pm
Location: Waitakere Drift Stage (Ranges)

Postby Alex B » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:23 am

Pretty sure they cant with modern frontal impact laws. Im sure i saw that somewhere.
User avatar
Alex B
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 6539
Joined: Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:39 am
Location: London

Postby MasCam » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:59 am

Why has no one mentioned that they should put the 2zz into it??

It would be a great revvy motor and would make parts available for RWD conversions on other cars :D :D
User avatar
MasCam
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 379
Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:01 pm
Location: Mosgolia

Postby pidge » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:02 am

MasCam wrote:Why has no one mentioned that they should put the 2zz into it??

It would be a great revvy motor and would make parts available for RWD conversions on other cars :D :D


Then the Celica wouldn't sell.

Oh, hang on...
User avatar
pidge
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 670
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2003 5:20 pm
Location: Auckland, NZ

Postby DJ » Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:59 pm

OH SNAP.
User avatar
DJ
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 2570
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 9:37 pm
Location: Sydney, Australia.

Postby barryogen » Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:13 pm

pidge wrote:Then the Celica wouldn't sell.

Oh, hang on...


The celica has been pulled from market, so it's not going to sell anymore anyway.
User avatar
barryogen
2ZZ Guru in training
 
Posts: 2692
Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:38 am
Location: Dunedin

Postby frost » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:35 pm

i was reading that the engine design of the ZZ wont allow it to be faced north south, something about the alloy block, it will put it self apart or something, thats why it hasn't been done in a ae86 conversion, i'll try and find the web site.
frost
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1705
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:19 pm

Postby solitaire » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:37 pm

frost wrote:i was reading that the engine design of the ZZ wont allow it to be faced north south, something about the alloy block, it will put it self apart or something, thats why it hasn't been done in a ae86 conversion, i'll try and find the web site.
They have been putting 2zz's in lotus seven replicas for ages though...
AE92, KZJ120, KDJ120
User avatar
solitaire
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3371
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:06 am
Location: Orewa, Auckland

Postby frost » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:45 pm

oh really didn't know that, it seems its never been done to the ae86, and a few people have tried in the states but didn't get past the mock up stage, alteza 3s beams engine is easer then ZZ conversion, even f20c, wonder if honda would lend a had and say "hey you take this engine" haha that would be sweet,

that pic of the rear end is really high, not just the body hight but the body lines make the rear high like it wants to be taken up the...
frost
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1705
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:19 pm

Postby frost » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:33 pm

wow just saw a action where its a de-reg rolling body AE85 and someone is willing to pay 1500 WTF!!! cant believe the price hike, i got a shell for $340 and its mint no rust, are they really getting that hard to find that its worth 1.5k for a dead shell!!!
frost
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1705
Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:19 pm

Postby solitaire » Fri Jul 13, 2007 4:40 pm

frost wrote:wow just saw a action where its a de-reg rolling body AE85 and someone is willing to pay 1500 WTF!!! cant believe the price hike, i got a shell for $340 and its mint no rust, are they really getting that hard to find that its worth 1.5k for a dead shell!!!
If its deregged its useless isnt it? i thought you couldnt reg them anymore if the reg lapses
AE92, KZJ120, KDJ120
User avatar
solitaire
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 3371
Joined: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:06 am
Location: Orewa, Auckland

Postby Punter » Fri Jul 13, 2007 5:37 pm

No, you should be able to re-reg. pricey though.
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.
User avatar
Punter
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 809
Joined: Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:02 pm
Location: Akl CBD

Postby rollaholic » Fri Jul 13, 2007 6:44 pm

a re-reg is only $400 iirc, provided it passes the inspection (slim chance for a de-reg'd 25 y/o car)

but $1500 for a de-reg'd shell is outrageous - maybe if it was an AE86 in good nick but no mechanicals or something, but an AE85?
BASU!
User avatar
rollaholic
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 5383
Joined: Fri May 28, 2004 2:19 am
Location: West is Best

Postby rolla_fxgt » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:15 pm

I was sitting in a class today & they were talking about entrepreneurs & how all they need is an idea, a niche market, & a shit load of money & balls.

I was thinking about this & wondering why no one has brought or try'd to buy all the presses etc for the origional Ae86 off Toyota started manufacturing new ones with exactly the same chasis & body (as much as current regs allow) with either the same engines or perhaps some more modern engines with more power. Kinda like they do in the us with the GT500 Shelby's, but with brand new chasis.

I guess the negatives of this idea are do the presses etc still exist, would toyota even sell them, cost.
Ending up with spare parts in assembling things since 1983
User avatar
rolla_fxgt
Toyspeed Member
 
Posts: 1641
Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:54 pm
Location: Rotorua

PreviousNext

Return to General Car Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 24 guests