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Postby rolla_fxgt » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:18 pm

Now that Ferrari are the engine & chasis suppliers to A1GP has A1GP sold out & basically become Formula Ferrari by default?
Oh & does anyone else bet there'll be a surge of form by the Italian team?

A1GP just lost my veiwing, it'll be like F1 if Ferrari had they're way all the time
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Postby Sideros » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:27 pm

That's fantastic news! I'm a ferrari supporter 100%. Good to see the A1GP is going with a very capable engine/chassis maker.

And to say A1GP just lost your viewing is a bit stupid - You watch it for the racing and the competition between the countrys not for who supplies the parts... Do you?!
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Re: A1GP='sFormula Ferrari?

Postby Truenotch » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:52 pm

rolla_fxgt wrote:Now that Ferrari are the engine & chasis suppliers to A1GP has A1GP sold out & basically become Formula Ferrari by default?
Oh & does anyone else bet there'll be a surge of form by the Italian team?

A1GP just lost my veiwing, it'll be like F1 if Ferrari had they're way all the time


It wont make any difference to the racing as they are all the same car at the moment anyway. By my books it would be the same but faster, no harm?
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Postby Leon » Fri Oct 12, 2007 12:59 pm

Most people couldn't tell you what the A1 chassis and engine is without looking it up anyway, so I don't see this making any difference at all.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:02 pm

yeah no harm.
the focus is on passing.
that is the main criteria with the cars.
if it doesnt work out in testing they will make changes to fix it.

so..... i hope you are all cheering for team NZL this weekend! :D


btw..... who thinks A1GP has the best tracks?!
other than monza and spa, id say they have better tracks than F1.
brands hatch is soooo much better than silverstone i reckon.
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Postby Adamal » Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:52 pm

So whats the deal with the change, anyway? I thought the engines were pretty top notch and reliable in the current series?

It won't bring any difference really. The cars are all the same, so it comes down to skill. F1 cars have slight differences in different aspects (eg handling, power development) which give them advantages and disadvantages in different track situations.

Either way, Ferrari are going to be sittin pretty.
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Re: A1GP='sFormula Ferrari?

Postby Snoozin » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:22 pm

It'l be a boon for A1GP - the name Ferrari holds such standing amongst both the automotive, and probably more importantly the non-automotive community that it is surely a very very smart commercial decision by those in power (more the A1GP side of things, not Ferrari....)

I mean, if you went up to the average person and said "oh man, there's a full field of Lola's racing (current chassis builder) this weekend" as opposed to "there's a whole field of Ferrari's lining up this weekend" I reckon I know which they'd get most enthused about....
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:28 pm

yes good point

and good for ferrari as theres gotta be a lot of $$ in making all those cars!!
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Postby Truenotch » Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:37 pm

Some news site wrote:Ferrari's A1 GP deal
11/10/2007 - 10:02:32

Ferrari have signed an agreement to supply the A1GP series with hardware and technical support from next season, it was announced today.

The six-year deal will see the historic Italian manufacturer build and supply engines to the one-make series in addition to designing and collaborating on the manufacture of cars and chassis.

Commenting on the deal, A1GP chairman Tony Teixeira said: “Partnering with a world-class organisation like Ferrari will officially position A1GP as one of the most significant motorsport series in the world.

“Ferrari will add significant value to our brand and in our opinion there is no better partner to progress the series.”

The agreement represents a significant coup for a series still in its infancy.

Now in its third season, A1GP is already building a following thanks to its nation-versus-nation concept, and links with Ferrari will no doubt significantly raise its profile.

Racing in a number of countries not represented on the Formula One calendar, A1GP affords Ferrari the opportunity to further expand global awareness of its brand, according to A1GP CEO Pete da Silva.

He told PA Sport: “I would like to think that one of things that attracted Ferrari was the areas that we cover.

“We have a worldwide footprint and are in all the emerging markets that must be attracted to a brand like Ferrari.

“We are going to carry on with nation-versus-nation concept and uphold the A1GP brand, and Ferrari will subscribe to all of that and more.”

Da Silva believes the deal will finally silence doubters of A1GP, who have questioned the financial sustainability of the FIA-endorsed series since its launch in 2004.

“I think it says that we are not just here to stay, we are going to be growing too,” he continued. “We are taking A1GP to the next level.



Helps a bit to fill in on the situation.
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:02 pm

Sideros wrote:That's fantastic news! I'm a ferrari supporter 100%. Good to see the A1GP is going with a very capable engine/chassis maker.

And to say A1GP just lost your viewing is a bit stupid - You watch it for the racing and the competition between the countrys not for who supplies the parts... Do you?!


I do watch it for the countries & as revvy says the passing (go the passing!!!), but I liked that A1GP was largely independent of the traditional FIA catagory structure, of formula ford, renault, bmw, GP2, etc etc. Now its just got into bed with all the traditional way of being & all the B S that goes with it. The whole point of the A1GP i thought was that it was meant to create excitement of being country v country & outside the traditional stucture of motorsport.

And I like the look of the current chasis, & not really keen on them all looking like this seasons F1 Ferrari with a bigger back end to fit the engine in, its kinda like those star cars that look like miniture falcons & commodores.

In my opinion A1GP & GP Masters should of gotten together & run on the same weekends, would of made a great spectacle with two headline acts, & made for a great weekend of top class single seater racing
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Postby Leon » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:25 pm

rolla_fxgt wrote:Now its just got into bed with all the traditional way of being & all the B S that goes with it.


How so?

They've just changed from a Lola (FIA F3) chassis, to another chassis made by another manufacturer.
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Postby Mr Revhead » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:42 pm

Leon wrote:
rolla_fxgt wrote:Now its just got into bed with all the traditional way of being & all the B S that goes with it.


How so?

They've just changed from a Lola (FIA F3) chassis, to another chassis made by another manufacturer.


dont you mean F3000 :P

but yeah....

it hasnt gone the traditional way it all....
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Postby rolla_fxgt » Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:53 pm

Leon wrote:
rolla_fxgt wrote:Now its just got into bed with all the traditional way of being & all the B S that goes with it.


How so?

They've just changed from a Lola (FIA F3) chassis, to another chassis made by another manufacturer.


Its not so much that they've changed chasis suppliers its that i'm worried what else they've agreed to with Ferarri that we don't know about yet. And A1GP's whole thing in the 1st season was based around the idea that they're different, now they're not

And as we can see with F1, the FIA is all about politics (though in reality what isn't), and my gut instinct is the more consolidated the whole motorsport industry gets the worse off for the sport it is. A point that is made in this article http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_feature_item.php and I know Lola isn't exactly a small player in motorsport, but why not leave series like this with the smaller chasis/engine suppliers?
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Postby Adamal » Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:16 pm

Thanks Truenotch :)

I have to say, this made me giggle a bit:

Racing in a number of countries not represented on the Formula One calendar, A1GP affords Ferrari the opportunity to further expand global awareness of its brand, according to A1GP CEO Pete da Silva.


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Postby escortman » Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:05 pm

i cant see the problem really they all stil use the same car just hopefully will be a little quiker
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