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Postby avinesh » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:34 pm

ok guys takin my soarer out to nite speed drag wars next week friday just wondering if you guys have any advice for me on launchin it.... its auto by the way its got a 1jzgte with intake, exhaust an front mount intercooler made 220.2 rwkw at the dyno........its also non lsd which suks since it easily breaks traction, its got 235 45 17s at the back with 9inch rims would wheels with more profile like fatter side walls help traction but lets say less wide like 225s any advice would be helpfull thanks......
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Postby matt dunn » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:42 pm

Cant say I done much launching with an auto,


but if I was to guess,

Start in Drive, dont try to shift L, 2 then D manually,

Hold one foot hard on the brake when on the line and with your other load it up just a little bit, maybe 1500, 1600 rpm,
when the lights change, release the brake and sqeeze the accelerator to the floor, dont just jam it down.


Some more auto experienced people may have a better idea.

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Postby method » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:03 pm

Yeah thats how its usually done, by loading up the torque converter.
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Postby avinesh » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:05 pm

method wrote:Yeah thats how its usually done, by loading up the torque converter.


wont that sort of make the car spin the tyres a bit if i load it up an then do a take off
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Postby Silent Knight » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:10 pm

avinesh wrote:
method wrote:Yeah thats how its usually done, by loading up the torque converter.


wont that sort of make the car spin the tyres a bit if i load it up an then do a take off


With a one wheeler you'll probably get a bit of spin but that's the best way to launch the auto. The stock stall is around 1.8K from memory so stay just below that before you lunch otherwise you'll end up doing a burnout...
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Postby blackmk3 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:48 am

Drop your tyre pressures also to around 15 odd psi pulls much better traction with my supra

When i once had auto i found it takes alot of practice to get the stall RPM right, to little and it bogs and ur slow off the line, to much and you end up wheel spinning at the line

Also like matt dunn said squeese the accelerator to the floor when you take off or your tyres will just spin, good luck! bummer i cant be at these drags was at last weeks tho it was a good event!

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Postby Warren » Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:30 am

blackmk3 wrote:bummer i cant be at these drags was at last weeks tho it was a good event!

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Oh did that actually go ahead.
I was gona go with a couple of mates but were a little skeptical about the weather. So we just watch Transformers haha.

As for launching an auto. I would pretty much agree with whats been said so far.
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Postby avinesh » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:14 pm

what kinda times an trap speeds should i be expecting???
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Postby spencer » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:20 pm

anywhere from a 14 to a 16 depending on skills, we took a relatively stock auto 2jzgte aristo down and ran a 14.4 We weighed it at 1680kgs so soarer should be abit less of a whale with similar power its all in launching that auto hard
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Postby Lith » Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:37 pm

I'd expect in the 14.0 to 15.0 range depending on boost level etc etc and 155-165kph depending on the same if its just a basic bolt on one.
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Postby audi man » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:22 pm

blackmk3 wrote:Drop your tyre pressures also to around 15 odd psi pulls much better traction with my supra

When i once had auto i found it takes alot of practice to get the stall RPM right, to little and it bogs and ur slow off the line, to much and you end up wheel spinning at the line

Also like matt dunn said squeese the accelerator to the floor when you take off or your tyres will just spin, good luck! bummer i cant be at these drags was at last weeks tho it was a good event!

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Re: soarer at drags

Postby audi man » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:36 pm

avinesh wrote:ok guys takin my soarer out to nite speed drag wars next week friday just wondering if you guys have any advice for me on launchin it.... its auto by the way its got a 1jzgte with intake, exhaust an front mount intercooler made 220.2 rwkw at the dyno........its also non lsd which suks since it easily breaks traction, its got 235 45 17s at the back with 9inch rims would wheels with more profile like fatter side walls help traction but lets say less wide like 225s any advice would be helpfull thanks......
I think the best way with the auto is time it with the lights as soon as the timing lights start to move put throtle to the floor hold brake on hard soon as the green let it all go, if you do get a bit of wheel spin that is good stops you from bogging and gives you a better 60ft, i will be down there next drags just look out for a red mk3 supra with mcr down the side.
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Postby blackmk3 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:12 pm

Warren wrote:
blackmk3 wrote:bummer i cant be at these drags was at last weeks tho it was a good event!

Nick


Oh did that actually go ahead.
I was gona go with a couple of mates but were a little skeptical about the weather. So we just watch Transformers haha.

As for launching an auto. I would pretty much agree with whats been said so far.


Yup it did go ahead however there was a rather large delay to allow the track to dry but in the end all the racing was compleated so it was all good
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Postby blackmk3 » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:17 pm

audi man wrote:
blackmk3 wrote:Drop your tyre pressures also to around 15 odd psi pulls much better traction with my supra

When i once had auto i found it takes alot of practice to get the stall RPM right, to little and it bogs and ur slow off the line, to much and you end up wheel spinning at the line

Also like matt dunn said squeese the accelerator to the floor when you take off or your tyres will just spin, good luck! bummer i cant be at these drags was at last weeks tho it was a good event!

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Hey Nick how did you get on in the end, as i said the best we ended up with was a 11.1 with low boost and just driving off the line, how come your not coming next week? have you got that wastgate on yet i think that will make a lot of difrence with keeping your boost up.


I pulled another 14.2 on my final run before being elimiated by a rx3 :(, and yeah your right i certantly think converting to external is the way hold the boost much better
Back to the drawing boards and the garage me thinks, fab me up a new exaust manifold 8)

As for next week im on call for work so gotta stay in town but ill be up at the next ones after that 8). wow man thats a wicked time how did you go at the test n tune?
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Postby audi man » Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:23 pm

I never made it to test n tune as the weather did not look good.
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Postby BlakeNZ » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:19 pm

avenish, with 220 rwkw and street tyres and an open diff you will wheel spin all night! leave the auto in normal. not power. leave your spare wheel in ,and half a tank of fuel to get weight over the back end. pop the bonnet between runs. a hot 1jzgte will cost you 2mph and about .2 secs.
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Re: soarer at drags

Postby matt dunn » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:50 pm

audi man wrote:I think the best way with the auto is time it with the lights as soon as the timing lights start to move put throtle to the floor hold brake on hard soon as the green let it all go.



And after about 20 runs like that,
book it in to have the auto trans replaced.

Holding both the gas hard down and the brake hard on burns the oil in th auto and is hard on gear, especailly if it is making any reasonable amount of power at stall speed.
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Postby audi man » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:37 pm

matt dunn wrote:
audi man wrote:I think the best way with the auto is time it with the lights as soon as the timing lights start to move put throtle to the floor hold brake on hard soon as the green let it all go.



And after about 20 runs like that,
book it in to have the auto trans replaced.

Holding both the gas hard down and the brake hard on burns the oil in th auto and is hard on gear, especailly if it is making any reasonable amount of power at stall speed.
Thats why i said wait till the stage lights start moving, that gives him 3 seconds to bring stall up but not hold it on the stall so he dos not cook it, this way will drop is 60 foot.
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Re: soarer at drags

Postby avinesh » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:04 pm

i practiced yesterday a lil bit doing take offs comparing it with my brothers evo 4 i steped on brake an throttled it abit but not all the way maybe a lil more then quarter throttle an the car stalled up to over 2000rpm is this normal, an then i did a lil take off with the evo an suprisingly i stayed almost dead even with him from take off which was suprising didnt really go crazy speeds but i think i started to pull ahead slowly the new tyres i put on the back made a huge difference to traction.....just hope the track is as nice as the road dont wana run a 15 sec time with 220wkw
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Postby Scottie » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:42 pm

Don't they have traction control? Or is that just some Soarers. It could make lunching easier:wink:

I remember one at the night drags a while ago that entered the burnout competition and didn't manage to get the wheels spinning and the commentator mentioned that he may have traction control on.
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